:thumbs up: New York

[Ben Kenobi]

At least I know it's hertz and not decibels

Yeah, I switched the numbers around, but you are wrong about speech. Speech is very important to reading because if you can't understand the sounds, you can't really read.

[giblets]

Yeah, I switched the numbers around, but you are wrong about speech. Speech is very important to reading because if you can't understand the sounds, you can't really read.

Where did I say speech didn't matter? I just don't think there is a lot of speech above 1000 Hz

[Ben Kenobi]

So why do you post?

People obviously care about what I write.

If you want to know about stuff, I'll be happy to answer, but telling me that I don't know **** about my own hearing, yeah, that's amusing.

[Ben Kenobi]

Where did I say speech didn't matter? I just don't think there is a lot of speech above 1000 Hz

I'm at present without my files, lemme see if I can pull them up somehow.

[Asher]

Oh, really? Liar. You haven't because I know when they started rolling it out. Wasn't till the 90s.

Closed captioning was first demonstrated at the First National Conference on Television for the Hearing Impaired in Nashville, Tennessee in 1971.[22] A second demonstration of closed captioning was held at Gallaudet College (now Gallaudet University) on February 15, 1972 where ABC and the National Bureau of Standards demonstrated closed captions embedded within a normal broadcast of The Mod Squad.

The closed captioning system was successfully encoded and broadcast in 1973 with the cooperation of PBS station WETA.[22] As a result of these tests, the FCC in 1976 set aside line 21 for the transmission of closed captions. PBS engineers then developed the caption editing consoles that would be used to caption prerecorded programs.

Real-time captioning, a process for captioning live broadcasts, was developed in 1982.[22] In real-time captioning, court reporters trained to write at speeds of over 225 words per minute give viewers instantaneous access to live news, sports and entertainment. As a result, the viewer sees the captions within two to three seconds of the words being spoken.
[edit] Full-scale closed captioning

The National Captioning Institute was created in 1979 in order to get the cooperation of the commercial television networks.[23]

The first use of regularly scheduled uses of closed captioning on American television was on March 16, 1980. Sears had developed and sold the Telecaption adapter, a decoding unit that could be connected to a standard television set. The first programs seen with captioning were the ABC Sunday Night Movie, Disney's Wonderful World on NBC, and Masterpiece Theatre on PBS. The captioned Disney feature, showing at 7:00 pm EST, was the film Son of Flubber, while the movie at 9:00 EST was Semi-Tough.[24]

How can you say that? There's no evidence to back up your statement. Just an asspull.

No, any statement to the contrary is an asspull. It's a reasonable assumption that it's not a big deal on the scale of gay suicides if no one, not even deaf advocacy groups, have studied it.

I'm saying that published studies are showing that the average person with my hearing loss only gets a grade 3 education. You don't think that's a problem?

If they're getting up to a grade 3 education, clearly they're being allowed in the school. I can't speak to their ability to learn. It also happens to be irrelevant.

Why don't you tell me what kind of education the average mentally retarded person gets? That's just as relevant here.

Considering we couldn't even go to public school, yeah a bit low on the list, dude.

I do not understand! How can you not go to public school, but go to public school and be so ridiculously smart that they wanted you to skip grades?

[Asher]

Where did I say speech didn't matter? I just don't think there is a lot of speech above 1000 Hz

The voiced speech of a typical adult male will have a fundamental frequency from 85 to 180 Hz, and that of a typical adult female from 165 to 255 Hz.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voice_frequency

[giblets]

The voiced speech of a typical adult male will have a fundamental frequency from 85 to 180 Hz, and that of a typical adult female from 165 to 255 Hz.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voice_frequency

Gosh Asher. Did you write that yourself just now?

[Asher]

Gosh Asher. Did you write that yourself just now?

Yes. As well as this study.

[Ben Kenobi]

No, any statement to the contrary is an asspull. It's a reasonable assumption that it's not a big deal on the scale of gay suicides if no one, not even deaf advocacy groups, have studied it.

So in otherwords, absence of evidence is evidence of absence.

As for closed captioning? When did CKPG start broadcasting it? My parents didn't have cable.

If they're getting up to a grade 3 education, clearly they're being allowed in the school. I can't speak to their ability to learn. It also happens to be irrelevant.

Reading at a grade 3 level can be done with no school whatsoever.

It also happens to be irrelevant.

It's only irrelevant because it destroys your argument.

How can you not go to public school, but go to public school and be so ridiculously smart that they wanted you to skip grades?

Because 1986 is different from 1992. They knew what they were dealing with having had me in school for five years, after never having a deaf student in a public elementary school before.

Are you dense, man?

[Asher]

It's only irrelevant because it destroys your argument.

How the **** do you figure?

You claim deaf kids are "kicked out" of public school, yet you lived in a little butt**** nowhere town and went to public school.

The only thing being destroyed here is you.

Are you dense, man?

Nope. But you clearly are.

[Asher]

And yes, it's the gays everyone "bends over backwards" for. Not the deaf.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metro_Toronto_School_for_the_Deaf

The Metropolitan Toronto School for the Deaf is a public school in Toronto, Ontario with day programs serving deaf and hard-of-hearing students.

The school teaches elementary students. It also shares a campus with the Davisville Junior Public School, for hearing students.

Deaf student population approximately 30 in the elementary school.

A 30-student K-6 school just for the deaf people on the public dime...

[MrFun]

BK - deaf all the time, 24/7.

[Asher]

BK - deaf all the time, 24/7.

Hey, be nice. He can't hear dog whistles.

[Ben Kenobi]

The Metropolitan Toronto School for the Deaf

Toronto, ***** already said there are schools for the deaf in Vancouver.

Where I was they hadn't had a deaf student in the system previously.

Clearly reading comprehension isn't your strong suit.

[giblets]

How many people live in Prince George again? What are the chances of a deaf child living there?