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  • #76
    Originally posted by Al B. Sure! View Post
    What the ****? I ****ing explained the problem:



    What the **** do YOU not understand?
    What exactly makes such an economy unsustainable? The fact that they can choose to grow opium poppies instead of grain? It's still an economy based on labor-intensive agriculture.

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    • #77
      Originally posted by gribbler View Post
      What exactly makes such an economy unsustainable? The fact that they can choose to grow opium poppies instead of grain? It's still an economy based on labor-intensive agriculture.
      To unite the country peacefully and disincentivize warlord-ism would require a transition to an urban economy centered on industry, if European history is a guide.
      "Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
      "I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi

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      • #78
        Originally posted by Al B. Sure! View Post
        To unite the country peacefully and disincentivize warlord-ism would require a transition to an urban economy centered on industry, if European history is a guide.
        Why are we using European history as a guide? Why is it any of our business if Afghanistan has a strong central authority or not?

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        • #79
          Originally posted by gribbler View Post
          Why are we using European history as a guide? Why is it any of our business if Afghanistan has a strong central authority or not?
          I'm making the ****ing argument that there's nothing inherently savage about the Afghan people or their culture. Do you want to take up that mantle erected by Oerdin?
          "Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
          "I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi

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          • #80
            I don't think there's anything inherently European about Afghanistan either, so why is European history relevant?

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            • #81
              Originally posted by gribbler View Post
              I don't think there's anything inherently European about Afghanistan either, so why is European history relevant?
              Our species is fundamentally the same. Our cultures are not static and are shaped in predictable ways by our physical environments and conditions.
              "Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
              "I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi

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              • #82
                Hey, geniuses, do you think agriculture is virtually the only industry in the US and Canada? Do you think 78.6% of the Canadian and US labor force works in agriculture?
                You said it was barren wasteland. This is not so.
                Last edited by Ben Kenobi; June 30, 2011, 21:29.
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                • #83
                  So for the IED's, I'm going with the Belarussians but the Irish and Vietnamese developed the practice.
                  So why then don't we see Belarussians suicide bombing Afghanistan.

                  Here's a clue, Albert. It's muslims!

                  Why is it that the resident Palestinian cannot admit that muslims are the ones that are suicide bombing Afghanistan civilians?

                  Could it be that he's muslim too? I think so!
                  Scouse Git (2) La Fayette Adam Smith Solomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by Al B. Sure! View Post
                    Our species is fundamentally the same. Our cultures are not static and are shaped in predictable ways by our physical environments and conditions.
                    OMG, I think Al is a marxist!

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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by gribbler View Post
                      OMG, I think Al is a marxist!
                      Even if I subscribed to Marxist historiography (to which, I can see the connection), that doesn't imply that I favor communism as a political outlook.
                      "Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
                      "I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi

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                      • #86
                        Originally posted by Al B. Sure! View Post
                        Even if I subscribed to Marxist historiography (to which, I can see the connection), that doesn't imply that I favor communism as a political outlook.
                        You're just saying that to gain our trust. You filthy commie.

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                        • #87
                          Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
                          So why then don't we see Belarussians suicide bombing Afghanistan.

                          Here's a clue, Albert. It's muslims!

                          Why is it that the resident Palestinian cannot admit that muslims are the ones that are suicide bombing Afghanistan civilians?

                          Could it be that he's muslim too? I think so!


                          I don't believe in God. How can I be a Muslim?
                          "Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
                          "I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi

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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by Al B. Sure! View Post


                            I don't believe in God. How can I be a Muslim?
                            Of course you don't believe in God, you're a filthy commie!

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                            • #89
                              Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
                              So you'd rather give up than press on.
                              yes. i think i very clearly explained why in my post.

                              Why are they lumping in age deaths?
                              1) what are you talking about?
                              2) are you denying that civilian casualties have increased since 2006 and are continuing to do so?

                              Seems to me that the same old gang of mijiheeden idiots are still killing people. Probably because they figure that the harder they push, that Obama's not going doo crap all. And they are right.


                              some facts:

                              1) troop numbers have increased dramatically since obama became president. and yet;
                              2) civilians casualties have increased.
                              3) fighting has spread to previously quiet regions.
                              4) the afghan army is almost useless. the afghan government is worse than useless.

                              by any reasonable measure things have gotten worse and not better.

                              If you're going to intervene then the obligation is to fix things up before you leave. You just don't bail after intervention.

                              Yes, it is expensive, but then that should have beeen decided before going in. I believe I wasn the only realist who said that the US would be there for a long time. As in 50 years.
                              we have been there for 10 years. we are not making progress towards our goals (such as they are). things are in fact getting worse. what we are doing at the moment is not working. what on earth makes you think that staying there any longer will improve things, it beggars belief.
                              "The Christian way has not been tried and found wanting, it has been found to be hard and left untried" - GK Chesterton.

                              "The most obvious predicition about the future is that it will be mostly like the past" - Alain de Botton

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                              • #90
                                BK advocating to continue a war which is widely perceived as a crusade against islam... Who whould have thought?

                                Poor Texas to have a bigot like this misform their children.
                                "Ceterum censeo Ben esse expellendum."

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