Bin Laden To Be Announced As Kiiled

[Supr49er]

How long before Trump demands to see a copy of the Death Certificate?

[dannubis]

Or a snuff movie ?

[Darius871]

It is astonishingly stupid.

Well in fairness, their ****ing stupidass attempt at reasoning was to respect "Islamic practice and tradition," which "calls for the body to be buried within 24 hours," and secondly because "[f]inding a country willing to accept the remains of the world's most wanted terrorist would have been difficult."

Yeah, because anyone here gives a damn whether a consistent abuser of Islam like OBL gets the luxury of traditional treatment, and because anyone here even gives a damn about finding some middle eastern country to dump him when we could have just as easily cremated him on American soil. What ****ing world are these people living in???

[SpencerH]

A nice moral victory but almost nothing will change in terms of the threat of islamic terrorists threatening western countries (mostly) with violence.

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

Well in fairness, their ****ing stupidass attempt at reasoning was to respect "Islamic practice and tradition," which "calls for the body to be buried within 24 hours," and secondly because "[f]inding a country willing to accept the remains of the world's most wanted terrorist would have been difficult."

Yeah, because anyone here gives a damn whether a consistent abuser of Islam like OBL gets the luxury of traditional treatment, and because anyone here even gives a damn about finding some middle eastern country to dump him when we could have just as easily cremated him on American soil. What ****ing world are these people living in???

Good thing the whole burial thing at sea will appease and appeal to the Islamic sensibilities in observance of custom.

Islamic scholars question bin Laden's sea burial
(AP) – 33 minutes ago

CAIRO (AP) — Muslim clerics said Monday that Osama bin Laden's burial at sea was a violation of Islamic tradition that may further provoke militant calls for revenge attacks against American targets.

Although there appears to be some room for debate over the burial — as with many issues within the faith — a wide range of Islamic scholars interpreted it as a humiliating disregard for the standard Muslim practice of placing the body in a grave with the head pointed toward the holy city of Mecca.

Sea burials can be allowed, they said, but only in special cases where the death occurred aboard a ship.

"The Americans want to humiliate Muslims through this burial, and I don't think this is in the interest of the U.S. administration," said Omar Bakri Mohammed, a radical cleric in Lebanon.

A U.S. official said that the burial decision was made after concluding that it would have been difficult to find a country willing to accept the remains. There also was speculation about worry that a grave site could have become a rallying point for militants.

The U.S. official, who spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive national security matters, did not say where the burial took place.

U.S. President Barack Obama said the remains had been handled in accordance with Islamic custom, which requires speedy burial.

But the Lebanese cleric Mohammed called it a "strategic mistake" that was bound to stoke rage.

In Washington, CIA director Leon Panetta warned that "terrorists almost certainly will attempt to avenge" the killing of the mastermind behind the Sept. 11 attacks.

"Bin Laden is dead," Panetta wrote in a memo to CIA staff. "Al-Qaida is not."

According to Islamic teachings, the highest honor to be bestowed on the dead is giving the deceased a swift burial, preferably before sunset. Those who die while traveling at sea can have their bodies committed to the bottom of the ocean if they are far off the coast, according to Islamic tradition.

"They can say they buried him at sea, but they cannot say they did it according to Islam," Mohammed al-Qubaisi, Dubai's grand mufti, said about bin Laden's burial. "If the family does not want him, it's really simple in Islam: You dig up a grave anywhere, even on a remote island, you say the prayers and that's it."

"Sea burials are permissible for Muslims in extraordinary circumstances," he added. "This is not one of them."

But Mohammed Qudah, a professor of Islamic law at the University of Jordan, said burying the Saudi-born bin Laden at sea was not forbidden if there was nobody to receive the body and provide a Muslim burial.

"The land and the sea belong to God, who is able to protect and raise the dead at the end of times for Judgment Day," he said. "It's neither true nor correct to claim that there was nobody in the Muslim world ready to receive Bin Laden's body."

Clerics in Iraq — where an offshoot of al-Qaida is blamed for the death of thousands of people since 2003 — also criticized the U.S. action. One said it only benefited fish.

"If a man dies on a ship that is a long distance from land, then the dead man should be buried at the sea," said Shiite cleric Ibrahim al-Jabari. "But if he dies on land, then he should be buried in the ground, not to be thrown into the sea. Otherwise, this would be only inviting fish to a banquet."

The Islamic tradition of a quick burial was the subject of intense debate in Iraq in 2003 when U.S. forces embalmed the bodies of Saddam Hussein's two sons after they were killed in a firefight. Their bodies were later shown to media.

"What was done by the Americans is forbidden by Islam and might provoke some Muslims," said another Islamic scholar from Iraq, Abdul-Sattar al-Janabi, who preaches at Baghdad's famous Abu Hanifa mosque. "It is not acceptable and it is almost a crime to throw the body of a Muslim man into the sea. The body of bin Laden should have been handed over to his family to look for a country or land to bury him."

Prominent Egyptian Islamic analyst and lawyer Montasser el-Zayat said bin Laden's sea burial was designed to prevent his grave from becoming a shrine. But an option was an unmarked grave.

"They don't want to see him become a symbol, but he is already a symbol in people's hearts."

Associated Press writers Barbara Surk in Dubai, United Arab Emirates; Jamal Halaby and Sameer N. Yacoub in Amman, Jordan, and Zeina Karam in Beirut contributed to this report.

Or not.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/...030dfaf9e04510

[Darius871]

I'm sure Obama was personally responsible for this, yes.

Wow, for once you get something right. Obama is commander in chief

Well, then again there's this:

[T]he U.S. discovered the compound by following one of the terrorist’s personal couriers, identified by terrorist detainees... Officials didn’t learn the courier’s name until 2007.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0511/54093_Page2.html#ixzz1LD1Yihem

In other words, perhaps we have "enhanced interrogation techniques" to thank for this news?

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

Well, then again there's this:




In other words, perhaps we have "enhanced interrogation techniques" to thank for this news?

Waterboarding FTW
Gitmo

Secret CIA Prisons

First strands on bin Laden gathered in CIA prison
(AP) – 24 minutes ago

WASHINGTON (AP) — Officials say CIA interrogators in secret overseas prisons developed the first strands of information that ultimately led to the killing of Osama bin Laden.

Current and former U.S. officials say that Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, the mastermind of the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attacks, provided the nom de guerre of one of bin Laden's most trusted aides. The CIA got similar information from Mohammed's successor, Abu Faraj al-Libi. Both were subjected to harsh interrogation tactics inside CIA prisons in Poland and Romania.

The news is sure to reignite debate over whether the now-closed interrogation and detention program was successful. Former president George W. Bush authorized the CIA to use the harshest interrogation tactics in U.S. history. President Barack Obama closed the prison system.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/...1c50206122d760

[PLATO]

I am definately not a fan of Obama. However, yesterday he made a presidential decision based on information developed by the government he runs. Today he is the man.

Bin Laden, as one of the New York papers put it, ROT IN HELL!

This is not a democratic or republican victory. This is a victory for the world. Today we should all be united in the praise of those who finally brought justice to an evil thug and some measure of closure to thousands of families that have suffered losses of loved ones at the hands of this low life bastard.

[BeBMan]

Dropping him into the sea seems rather smart to me, denying his followers an "OBL memorial site" in this way. A real conspiracy nut will not care about silly 'evidence' in form of a body (which then would be a fake body) anyway...

[onodera]

If they'd taken him alive, he'd have gotten a trial, a lawyer, and another 10 years to dodge the death penalty.

I don't think people in Gitmo had lawyers. Also, why do you want him dead?

[Boris Godunov]

[Guynemer]

[BeBMan]

[Sprayber]

The celebrations are a bit much. I can understand the emotions but the chanting in front of the White House and people saying that everything is ok just seems so stupid as to defy belief that these people live on the same planet. I'm glad the man is dead but I don't think it changes much.

[KrazyHorse]

Just a note: my banning created more posts faster than did the death of the world's most wanted terrorist.