A Game of Thrones - TV Show Discussion Thread

[Imran Siddiqui]

In the books, you get the sudden realization right before he murders Lysa (and pins it on the singer rather than doing the whole suicide wink wink thing) that he's been behind everything, and it all comes together as one huge masterstroke. In the show it seems like he's just failing upwards.

Yep. And I agree with you on the book-Littlefinger's plan being brilliant.

[regexcellent]

I know, but a casual reading of the series could leave you utterly flummoxed as to who Jeyne Poole is when she suddenly pops back into the picture.



She's still learning the trade, kind of. And I still have no idea what Littlefinger's plan is, in the books or the show.

It hardly matters who she is.

Littlefinger's plan in the books is to marry Sansa to the heir of the Vale and have Lord Robert (Robin in the show) bite the dust through medical malpractice. Thus uniting the Vale and the North in one dynasty under his control, while Littlefinger himself is Lord Paramount of the Riverlands via his seat at Harrenhal.

It's all part of a long-running scheme, too; killing Joffrey and framing Tyrion gets Sansa out of her marriage while providing him with the opportunity to spirit her away. The marriage to Tyrion itself was also engineered by him, to keep her from slipping out of his grasp to Highgarden.

[Dinner]

I'm talking about your spoiler which allowed me to correctly deduce that:

Spoiler:

Aegon Targaryen has been written out of the TV series - look Tyrion gets to Volantis all by himself!

So, yes, thanks for that Oerdin!

All I said is the show is decidedly breaking with the book and going their own way. You can guess what ever you want from that but a reasonable person wouldn't call that a spoiler.

[Lorizael]

It hardly matters who she is.

Littlefinger's plan in the books is to marry Sansa to the heir of the Vale and have Lord Robert (Robin in the show) bite the dust through medical malpractice. Thus uniting the Vale and the North in one dynasty under his control, while Littlefinger himself is Lord Paramount of the Riverlands via his seat at Harrenhal.

It's all part of a long-running scheme, too; killing Joffrey and framing Tyrion gets Sansa out of her marriage while providing him with the opportunity to spirit her away. The marriage to Tyrion itself was also engineered by him, to keep her from slipping out of his grasp to Highgarden.

Yeah, yeah. I just have a lot of trouble understanding how his plan gets him on the Iron Throne, as well as how it's managed to incorporate thoroughly unpredictable events (Bran falling and the consequences thereof, for example).

[regexcellent]

Spoiler:

Well, Shireen is very very dead this season. Crispy like bacon.

[Guynemer]

You picked up on that too, eh?

****ing hell, I hope not. I hope someone is able to stop it; no shortage of candidates:

Spoiler:

Jon, Sam, Tormund, Gilly, Davos, Alliser, hell, even Edd.

[Lorizael]

That's what you all are taking from this episode? What about...

Spoiler:

...Grey Worm and Barristan (maybe possibly it's not clear) dying?

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[Bugs ****ing Bunny]

That's easy for you to say.

[Koyaanisqatsi]

That's what you all are taking from this episode? What about...

Spoiler:

...Grey Worm and Barristan (maybe possibly it's not clear) dying?

Yep. Not happy about that part. Particularly because

Spoiler:

Barristan doesn't even get his true badass moment. I was looking forward to that.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Indeed. I'm really kind of disappointed about that..

Spoiler:

Are they not even going to have Second Battle of Meereen in all its badass-ness? I mean, in the books (sample chapter from Winds of Winter) you have Barristan Selmy leading a host of Unsullied outside the gates to attack the sellsword armies from Yunqai and Astapor, along with Dany's other two dragons, and from the see, Victarion's fleet makes mincemeat of the Slaver's navy. It would have been far more epic than the Battle of the Blackwater

[Nikolai]

Good episode. Ser Grandfather did not die, although he can still kick the bucket. My money is on him surviving though.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Nikolai:

Spoiler:

Sorry, you are wrong... there are interviews confirming that Barristan is gone

[Nikolai]

Yeah, I just found out.

[Dinner]

Indeed. I'm really kind of disappointed about that..

Spoiler:

Are they not even going to have Second Battle of Meereen in all its badass-ness? I mean, in the books (sample chapter from Winds of Winter) you have Barristan Selmy leading a host of Unsullied outside the gates to attack the sellsword armies from Yunqai and Astapor, along with Dany's other two dragons, and from the see, Victarion's fleet makes mincemeat of the Slaver's navy. It would have been far more epic than the Battle of the Blackwater

Supposedly, that second battle is supposed to happen in the opening chapters of The Winds of Winter.