A Game of Thrones - TV Show Discussion Thread

[Dinner]

It is almost like it dodn't happen.

[BeBMan]

This week's episode was rather short.

[CarolynDenton]

I hope Martin can come up with something more interesting than we saw in the final season.

[CarolynDenton]

Wonder if this is along the same ending Martin has in store.

I hope the old guy can come up with something better. The finale we got on the TV show is much worse than we could expect (taking the previous seasons into consideration).

[Demonbinder]

Latest for George R.R. Martin about Winds of Winter (if you believe it):

https://io9.gizmodo.com/george-r-r-martin-just-set-a-very-peculiar-winds-of-wi-1834953464?fbclid=IwAR0LI-jVdGRAmSlQEWYTw4lrUImkETbJlTg28maz1C-p7BVZZSG0jJbPWoA

[Dinner]

I finally got around to watching it yesterday. What a sad endibg to a great show. D&D ****ed it up royally.

[Lorizael]

When Tyrion was nominating Bran he responded cryptically (so typical) saying he was meant to be there or something to that effect. He was meant to be king?

Yeah. "Why do you think I came all this way?"

My thinking is... in the books, the three-eyed crow is Brynden Rivers, Bloodraven, a Targaryen bastard from around ~150 years before current events. By this time, all the dragons are dead. He witnesses several brutal rebellions and eventually, when all apparent heirs are dead, sets up a Great Council to determine the next Targ king. He is eventually banished to the Wall and then ranges north and finds the Children of the Forest. He probably learns about the threat of the Others from the CotF, and they concoct a plan to fight the Others, which involves bringing back the dragons, which requires Targaryens.

But at the same time, he (and the Children, who were slowly exterminated by various migrations to Westeros by Andals, Targs, etc.) decides that the inbred madness of the Targaryen dynasty and consequent rebellions is not the way forward for Westeros, and certainly not the way to fight the Others if they come again, so how about get a leader that represents the Children and ensure that future leaders are chosen by the lords of Westeros (in a Great Council, representing the people of Westeros) rather than returning to the Targaryen line.

Enter time travel, warging, and greenseeing to make it all happen.

[rah]

But in the books it will probably take half a book to explain vs, a one line comment.

[Berzerker]

Except both the Night's Watch and the Ironborn select leaders by vote, and I'm pretty sure some cities in Essos do, too.



I'm very confident the books will go there, but it will be clear that Bran/three-eyed crow basically engineered the whole thing via manipulating prophecies and seeing history.

When Tyrion was nominating Bran he responded cryptically (so typical) saying he was meant to be there or something to that effect. He was meant to be king?

[BeBMan]

I hope Arya will wear a Columbus face for discovering the continent west of Westeros, called Aryassos.

I think there should have been some mystery/prophecy/BranWisdom that the WWs can never be defeated fully, just stopped for a millenium or so, but then after some time a new night king may emerge somewhere in the cold north. Because the night is dark and full of terrors.

(but if they do it now for another show it will be seen as a cheap move to bring'em back somehow).

[rah]

From some click bait so don't know how reliable. Enough listed that you can pretty much figure out those that aren't listed. Salary per episode.
I wounder if Lena and Nikolaj got a mil for the final episode.
Still no respect for Sam and Theon.
I guess we only got 10k of acting from Bran per episode.

Kit Harington as Jon Snow – $500,000
Lena Headey as Cersei Lannister – $500,000
Nikolaj Coster-Waldau as Jaime Lannister – $500,000
Aidan Gillen as Littlefinger – $100,000 – $200,000
Conleth Hill as Lord Varys – $100,000 – $200,000
Rory McCann as The Hound – $100,000 – $200,000
Iain Glen as Jorah Mormont – $100,000 – $200,000
Alfie Allen as Theon Greyjoy – around $10,000
Isaac Hempstead Wright as Bran Stark – around $10,000
John Bradley as Samwell Tarly – around $10,000
Maisie Williams as Arya Stark – $100,000 – $200,000
Liam Cunningham as Davos Seaworth – $300,000
Nathalie Emmanuel as Missandei – $100,000
Gwendoline Christie as Brienne of Tarth – $100,000 – $200,000
Peter Dinklage as Tyrion Lannister – $500,000
Natalie Dormer as Margaery Tyrell – $100,000 – $200,000

[Lorizael]

I was waiting for the laughs after Sam's suggestion.

Except both the Night's Watch and the Ironborn select leaders by vote, and I'm pretty sure some cities in Essos do, too.

Bran being King does make sense though I'm not sure the books will go that way.

I'm very confident the books will go there, but it will be clear that Bran/three-eyed crow basically engineered the whole thing via manipulating prophecies and seeing history.

[Proteus_MST]

From the moment where Dany gave her speech and mentioned she wanted to liberate other cities the same way, she liberated Kings Landing,
noone in his or her right mind could still support her (at leat no Westerosi)

And still Jon found excuses for his queen and had to be convinced ny Tyrion regarding her evilness

All in all I liked the end.
With Jon now moving north with his beloved wildlings (instead of staying with the, now useless, Nights Watch)
and Arya becoming Captain Arya the Explorer (which I especially liked)

[BeBMan]

I was kinda disappointed - I do think the ideas were good, I liked several scenes too.

Sam proposing democracy getting laughed away was fun and a good demonstration of arrogance of power. The dragon/throne thing, him taking dead Daenerys away was good, so were other scenes.

But as finale for such a huge show it felt a bit lame to me. I blame it mostly on the "rushed" issue - the recent developments were not prepared carefully, so often felt forced, kinda like "oh what we only got 3,2,1 episodaes left, better hurry now". Maybe should have done two full seasons for 7 and 8.

Oh well, still it was a fantastic show overall, even with the weaker points.

[Demonbinder]

I agree with RAH. Not one of their best episodes but a pretty good one. I loved the opening scene with Dany where Drogon appears behind her and sprieads his wings so it looks like she has them. I was waiting for the laughs after Sam's suggestion. Wonder if that was a nod to some of the theories out there. Bran being King does make sense though I'm not sure the books will go that way. I also liked that the North stayed independent and was amused by the Council scene. Back to business as usual and Bron as Master of Coin?? And he is more concerned about brothels (though they will show up as soon as city is cleaned up if not before). I liked what they did with Arya though I would have liked for Nymeria to be with her. I knew as soon as they sentenced Jon to the wall that we would see Ghost again and that is why no hug in earlier episode. I figured Iron Throne would be gone but nice that Drogon did it.

The only thing is there weren't enough deaths. I really expected Grey Wolf to die but someone had to be in charge of the Unsullied and Dothraki. If we get the last two books more people will die.