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  • Originally posted by Asher View Post
    Christian thugs have done worse. They've killed millions for failing to be Christian.
    Or for being the wrong kind of Christian.

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    • Really? Would you mind linking me to a study that says Texas has a huge demand on school teachers above and beyond the other 49 States, or Canada?
      TX is tops in job creation. As for school teachers, you've got a significant number of kids and a growing population, which is unlike most places in the lower 48 and all of Canada.

      Would you agree that there ARE families who go to the Principal, explain that they can't pay anything, and are turned away?
      I'm not sure that the diocese turns anybody away. At least not with my class. I've had the same bunch since the first day. They do have pretty strict conduct codes, though.

      Thank you Nope, I didn't. The phrase about leading a horse to water comes to mind, but either you are very, very stupid, or you are being intentionally obtuse.
      Your argument is that private schools uniformly produce better results because they 'sort the wheat from the chaff'. That would be requiring proof that our splits do not outperform equivalent public school splits. Which they do. Hence why we can charge for a product not provided by the public schools.

      My speculation is that the school will exam the school records of potential students, and will only waive tuition or costs if the student has a very good school record(in terms of grades). By turning away the underachievers(most of whom, coincidentally, fall into certain socio-economic groups) the school can then go "look at us! We have a MUCH better record than those Public schools! If you have the money, you should totally give it to us and enroll your kids here!"
      Oh I know that's not true because of the makeup of my class. But then you know better then me despite not working there what kind of students I get to work with. Some strong students, some weak ones.

      Of course, Christians avoid acknowledging that a omniscient and omnipotent being that presents these two choices is, in fact, the most immoral and sadistic ******* ever. Because it isn't a choice. It's like a abusive boyfriend threatening to blow his girlfriends brains out if she doesn't give him a BJ, and when she refuses it becomes the fault of the girlfriend that she died, not the guy pulling the trigger.
      Arguing that God should be rejected because he's abusive is a silly argument. If God were abusive, wouldn't he zap you on the spot for what you just said about him?
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      • There is nothing in the original text of the constitution that refers to natural rights that are restricted by color, creed, or sex. Sorry.
        Excellent. Glad to see you agree with me here.
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        • Asher:

          Millions? I want to see evidence of this.
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          • Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
            Excellent. Glad to see you agree with me here.
            I made a typo and left out the word 'not'. Go ahead and quote the part of the original text that supports your claim.

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            • TX is tops in job creation.
              No, there are currently 21 states with a lower unemployment rate than Texas. Texas is clearly not 'tops' when it comes to providing employment to the people who live there.

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              • No Money shall be drawn from the Treasury, but in Consequence of Appropriations made by Law; and a regular Statement and Account of the Receipts and Expenditures of all public Money shall be published from time to time.
                Interesting.

                no Vessels bound to, or from, one State, be obliged to enter, clear, or pay Duties in another.
                Interesting.


                The Migration or Importation of such Persons as any of the States now existing shall think proper to admit, shall not be prohibited by the Congress prior to the Year one thousand eight hundred and eight, but a tax or duty may be imposed on such Importation, not exceeding ten dollars for each Person.
                Hmm, this really isn't followed either.

                but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;
                Hmm, Obamacare waivers?

                I'm not seeing a single reference to slavery permitted in the united states constitution. At least not in the original. So you are correct, there is no reference to any natural right limited by colour, creed or sex.

                Edit, missed this. The only reference.

                Representatives and direct Taxes shall be apportioned among the several States which may be included within this Union, according to their respective Numbers, which shall be determined by adding to the whole Number of free Persons, including those bound to Service for a Term of Years, and excluding Indians not taxed, three fifths of all other Persons
                The only actual reference to colour or creed omits Indians altogether.
                Last edited by Ben Kenobi; April 17, 2011, 16:22.
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                • Hmm, this really isn't followed either.
                  Actually Ben, the slave trade doesn't exist anymore.

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                  • Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
                    Then why does opposition to the 16th imply opposition to the 13th and 14th and 19th?
                    It's the principle of your opposition to the idea of the Constitution being a "living tree." How dare Americans make changes to the Constitution to abolish slavery!
                    A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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                    • Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
                      Asher:

                      Millions? I want to see evidence of this.
                      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_crusades
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                      • They killed millions of the 'wrong kind of Christians'? In the Crusades?

                        I don't even manage that in Crusader Kings, unless you consider Catholics to be the 'wrong kind of Christians'. I kill way more Catholics than anybody else when I go crusading to the Holy Land.
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                        • Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
                          I'm not seeing a single reference to slavery permitted in the united states constitution. At least not in the original. So you are correct, there is no reference to any natural right limited by colour, creed or sex.
                          The reason the constitution protects natural rights that aren't limited by color, creed or sex is because people amended it. Which they have every right to do if they follow the amendment process.

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                          • Actually Ben, the slave trade doesn't exist anymore.
                            Where does it say anything about slaves in that? It applies to everyone, not just slaves.
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                            • Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
                              They killed millions of the 'wrong kind of Christians'? In the Crusades?

                              I don't even manage that in Crusader Kings, unless you consider Catholics to be the 'wrong kind of Christians'. I kill way more Catholics than anybody else when I go crusading to the Holy Land.
                              Possibly the most boring game I've ever attempted to play.

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                              • The reason the constitution protects natural rights that aren't limited by color, creed or sex is because people amended it. Which they have every right to do if they follow the amendment process.
                                True, but the constitution in the original did not prohibit these natural rights. Nor did it preserve slavery.
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