Fox News North can't launch because regulation against lying in the news won't be repealed

[MikeH]

Huh? Wasn't I resonding to what Doc Strangelove said?

[MikeH]

Maybe I was responding. Who knows.

[DinoDoc]

But in the spirit of the fox news thread. Personal charity to the rescue.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews/201003...s/ynews_ts1390

Bill O.

[Dr Strangelove]

Bill O.

Sheesh, $100,000 is pocket change to him. It's like me putting a dollar bill in the Salvation Army pot, not much to crow about.

[Docfeelgood]

WHAT!!?? Fox news lies????

[ricketyclik]

That's just half the problem. Americans don't really have anywhere to go to get informed. Yes, FOX is mostly lies and misdirection. But the other major news channels just relay fluff pieces. They don't ask the hard questions or look for the tough answers. Ironically, the only "news" show that comes closest to that in the US is the Daily Show. But it spends more than half its time, pointing out the lies in FOX news.

I'll never forget holidaying in the US in 1999, and while I was there I heard on PBS radio that Musharraf had mounted his coup. I thought, gee, I'd better watch the news tonight. Got home turned on CBS. The leading story was that Shatner had been cleared of murdering his wife, the second story was that some old legendary basketball player had died of old age.

The fact that there had been a military coup in a nuclear power did not make it to their nationally broadcast nightly news.

(I understand CBS was the highest rating free-to-air news at the time. I'm not sure whether it still is.)

[ricketyclik]

If we did it your way, the term "liberal" could only be used for actual communists and Greenpeace.

It's interesting the way the US has come to equate "liberal" with left wing. The actual meaning of the word as used in the rest of the world refers to freedom of the individual, a value normally adhered to more dogmatically by the right. Indeed, in Australia our major Tory (right) party is "The Liberal Party".

[DaShi]

I'll never forget holidaying in the US in 1999, and while I was there I heard on PBS radio that Musharraf had mounted his coup. I thought, gee, I'd better watch the news tonight. Got home turned on CBS. The leading story was that Shatner had been cleared of murdering his wife, the second story was that some old legendary basketball player had died of old age.

The fact that there had been a military coup in a nuclear power did not make it to their nationally broadcast nightly news.

(I understand CBS was the highest rating free-to-air news at the time. I'm not sure whether it still is.)

The Daily Show showed a clip where CNN was covering the riots in Africa and then cut to breaking news about the current Lindsey Lohan trial.

[ricketyclik]

You're delusional with no appreciation for how the world works outside of the USA and outside of your city.

My points are not outrageous -- you'll probably see the vast majority of the world outside the USA agrees with me.

I debate very well, thank you. You, however, do not. All you ever do is defer to authority and whenever that fails, switch to reciting dogma while incredulously wondering why anyone could possibly think differently.

[OneFootInTheGrave]

One solution... If advertisements try to mimic a "news" story, we have to label them as ADVERTISEMENTS. Maybe Fox News should be forced to run a disclaimer at the bottom of the screen... something like "This may contain lies" or "Total BS" or "If you believe this, you are brain dead"... now that would be interesting

[molly bloom]

The Daily Show showed a clip where CNN was covering the riots in Africa and then cut to breaking news about the current Lindsey Lohan trial.

It's always best to get things in the correct perspective.... Lionel Shriver had this to say about the British Labour Party's new (then) leader:

Lionel Shriver

Novelist and journalist

Marriage in the UK has become a personal, emotional choice, not a moral one. Ed Miliband and his partner are simply living the way millions of other British couples do, which we no longer call, as my mother would say, "shacking up". Whether he chooses to formalise his relationship is none of our business.

More interestingly, Ed's advisers would have bullied him into getting married long ago if he had aspirations to lead a political party in the US. This cultural contrast intrigues me even more in relation to his cheerful declaration on Newsnight that he doesn't believe in God. That footage would destroy his political career in perpetuity where I come from. The fact that he could win last weekend's election as both an unmarried father and an atheist means to me that the British public is streets ahead of America. No wonder I live here.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2...does-it-matter


As Thomas Jefferson would say:

Say nothing of my religion. It is known to my god and myself alone.

[Guynemer]

the British public is streets ahead

I didn't realize Community aired in Britain.

[C0ckney]

it's an english expression...

[Guynemer]

You are clearly streets behind.

[molly bloom]

it's an english expression...

Yep- as used by the American novelist Lionel Shriver.

Sometimes it's nice to see things flowing the opposite way, linguistically (I'm so disappointed to see Brits use 'ass' instead of 'arse' over here, and feel quite dismayed about British (ab)use of 'I'm obsessing'... ) .