What's most amusing to me is that apparently Fox News is the most-watched of the cable news networks in the US. You think we shouldn't allow it to call itself a news source? That's adorable.
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What kind of hamfisted logic is this? Fox News is popular with masses of idiots, ergo it can be called a news source?Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View PostWhat's most amusing to me is that apparently Fox News is the most-watched of the cable news networks in the US. You think we shouldn't allow it to call itself a news source? That's adorable.
If news is defined as factual, truthful reporting of events (which I think most of us would agree to), then the popularity of Fox News or the Weekly World News or The National Inquirer doesn't really affect that, does it?"The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "
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How can logic be...hamfisted? Do you know what hamfisted means?
And we've already explained something like 30 times to your stupid stubborn brain why allowing news that Asher thinks is wrong is good. And why we should allow it even if Asher and his liberal entourage are always correct about what is true. Because it is inevitable that the government will ban things that challenge common misconception.
...now I'm ignorant? Some claims are so ridiculous that it isn't even worth attacking them. Their stupidity speaks for itself...such as your claim that WaPo is right-of-center. Maybe in Commieland...Last edited by MikeH; March 2, 2011, 11:57.If there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
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Clumsy or lacking in elegance. It applies perfectly...Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View PostHow can logic be...hamfisted? Do you know what hamfisted means?
You either do not understand this discussion at all or you're being disingenuous. This has nothing to do with news that I think is wrong, it's about preventing authoritative broadcast news from reporting demonstrable lies as truths as proven in a court of law. It's very similar to your laws about slander and libel, except that it applies in general to perpetuating proven falsehoods and not just against a person.And we've already explained something like 30 times to your stupid stubborn brain why allowing news that [redacted] thinks is wrong is good. And why we should allow it even if [redacted] and his liberal entourage are always correct about what is true. Because it is inevitable that the government will ban things that challenge common misconception.
And you've not explained anything "30 times", you've just repeated an ideology without any clear evidence of thought on your behalf. Unlike you, I don't adhere to dogma because "that's how it is".
Clearly....now I'm ignorant?
You've got it twisted. If you think it's NOT right-of-centre (not necessarily fully right wing, just right-of-centre), then it's because you live in a bizarre corner of the world where your political spectrum is completely out of whack (which it is).Some claims are so ridiculous that it isn't even worth attacking them. Their stupidity speaks for itself...such as your claim that WaPo is right-of-center. Maybe in Commieland...Last edited by Asher; March 2, 2011, 11:53."The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "
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Jon Miller: MikeH speaks the truth
Jon Miller: MikeH is a shockingly revolting dolt and a masturbatory urine-reeking sideshow freak whose word is as valuable as an aging cow paddy.
We've got both kinds
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BTW, I'd appreciate if you didn't use my full name on here, for google reasons."The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "
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Removed.Jon Miller: MikeH speaks the truth
Jon Miller: MikeH is a shockingly revolting dolt and a masturbatory urine-reeking sideshow freak whose word is as valuable as an aging cow paddy.
We've got both kinds
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This supports Asher's argument.Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View PostWhat's most amusing to me is that apparently Fox News is the most-watched of the cable news networks in the US. You think we shouldn't allow it to call itself a news source? That's adorable.“As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
"Capitalism ho!"
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Because they have prohibited lies and fictions being passed off as "News"? There's freedom of speech and then there is deliberately misleading "junk television". And Faux News certainly falls into the latter.Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View PostCensorship


This only emphasizes how full of **** you are when you talk about your blessed Canada being freer than America.Speaking of Erith:
"It's not twinned with anywhere, but it does have a suicide pact with Dagenham" - Linda Smith
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That's just half the problem. Americans don't really have anywhere to go to get informed. Yes, FOX is mostly lies and misdirection. But the other major news channels just relay fluff pieces. They don't ask the hard questions or look for the tough answers. Ironically, the only "news" show that comes closest to that in the US is the Daily Show. But it spends more than half its time, pointing out the lies in FOX news.Originally posted by MikeH View PostYeah, the problem with Fox News is that Fox News viewers aren't smart enough, or well informed enough, to immediately see through their pathetic deceptions. It's a right wing propoganda machine, filled with classic, heavy handed and unsubtle manipulations.“As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
"Capitalism ho!"
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I like the Daily Show, it's a shame we don't get it every day here any more.Jon Miller: MikeH speaks the truth
Jon Miller: MikeH is a shockingly revolting dolt and a masturbatory urine-reeking sideshow freak whose word is as valuable as an aging cow paddy.
We've got both kinds
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