Fox News North can't launch because regulation against lying in the news won't be repealed

[Imran Siddiqui]

It's interesting the way the US has come to equate "liberal" with left wing. The actual meaning of the word as used in the rest of the world refers to freedom of the individual, a value normally adhered to more dogmatically by the right. Indeed, in Australia our major Tory (right) party is "The Liberal Party".

I think it had to do with Franklin Roosevelt (who originally criticized Herbert Hoover for the deficit and overspending and then did the New Deal when elected into office). Liberal, which was associated with the Democratic Party, changed as the Democratic Party changed.

[giblets]

How long has "liberal" been associated with the Democratic party?

[Imran Siddiqui]

Democratic Party was the classic liberal party in the 1800s. The Republicans came from the Whigs who came from the Federalists who were always interested in using governmental power to help business or effect social change.

Basically goes all the way back to Hamilton vs. Jefferson.

[Al B. Sure!]

Democratic Party was the classic liberal party in the 1800s. The Republicans came from the Whigs who came from the Federalists who were always interested in using governmental power to help business or effect social change.

Basically goes all the way back to Hamilton vs. Jefferson.

Yeah but the Whigs were an off-shoot of the anti-Jacksonian wing of the Democratic-Republicans. They were John Quincy Adams' supporters.

Nor do I think it's appropriate to call Jefferson's Democratic-Republicans 'Democrats'. Andrew Jackson started the Democratic Party.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Mostly because by the time of Whig formation, the Democratic-Republicans were the only major political party after the Federalists collapsed shortly after the death of Hamilton.

[MRT144]

[Wezil]

The network that can't launch here is launching this afternoon:

Sun News Network rises today
By KEVIN CONNOR, QMI Agency

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Sun News Network hits the television airways Monday at 4:30 p.m. from coast to coast. (ERNEST DOROSZUK, Toronto Sun)

There is a new Sun rising and you’ve never seen anything like it.

Sun News Network hits the television airways Monday at 4:30 p.m. from coast to coast.

Sun newspapers have risen in Toronto, Ottawa, Calgary, Edmonton and Winnipeg and today they’ll be joined by Sun News.

http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2011/04/17/18028541.html

[Asher]

Ezra Levant has a show. That says it all.

[Wezil]

It should be amusing to see if they last. They are providing the signal fee to most for the next few months before starting to charge for it. Will the freebie convince people to pay for this service? I have my doubts.

[giblets]

I'm glad I have no idea who Ezra Levant is

[Wezil]

Ask Ben.

[Fake Boris]

Asher, you're an idiot. The entire point of freedom of speech is that you're allowed to say it regardless of what it is. That's what freedom MEANS, you insane ****ing moron.

Airwaves in Canada are considered public property. The government is allowing its usage under certain licensing conditions...

[Wezil]

We should start a pool predicting when the first complaint about Sun News is sent to the CRTC.

They launch at 4:30pm so I think 5:00pm would be a good guess.

[Asher]

I'm glad I have no idea who Ezra Levant is

He's Canada's Glenn Beck.

[Guynemer]

So who is Canada's Sarah Palin?