The basic point Asher was making is true - it is very much a private matter here. Religion in public is increasingly rare whereas in the US it is much more prominent.
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I would also add flags to the list. You guys have an incredible fixation with the flag. Every trailerhome's got to have at least one flying proudly. What's with that?"I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
"I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it." - Mark Twain
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What's the mystery? A lot of us take pride in our nation's status as the world's sole superpower (I don't especially, but then I'm not one for group loyalty in general). There are proud, touchy citizens in every empire, and it shouldn't be surprising that the poor who have little else to be proud of should attach to it more securely. Canada isn't an empire, it's the partially cast-off territory of a former empire. Hence, no imperial pride. At least, that's how I see it.
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My Dad (a WWII vet) flew the flag on holidays when I was growing up. That seemed appropriate.
When he retired to Florida and I went to visit, he had one up every day. That seemed odd.Apolyton's Grim Reaper 2008, 2010 & 2011
RIP lest we forget... SG (2) and LaFayette -- Civ2 Succession Games Brothers-in-Arms
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Why?I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio
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Behavior change.Apolyton's Grim Reaper 2008, 2010 & 2011
RIP lest we forget... SG (2) and LaFayette -- Civ2 Succession Games Brothers-in-Arms
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Originally posted by Elok View PostWell, they're certainly scarier than the HKs, though not necessarily scarier than the Moonies.
Asher, are you admitting your country is more "backwards" than mine in that one limited respect?
The backwards aspect is not religion itself, but the need to force everyone else to abide by your rules. It shows a shocking display of social immaturity and arrogance when the religionistas feel their One True Religion and its beliefs should be reflected in a secular government."The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "
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HC proves he's dumb as a rock... Again.Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.
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Originally posted by Asher View PostThey're not backwards because they know religion is a personal, private thing and keep it that way.
The backwards aspect is not religion itself, but the need to force everyone else to abide by your rules. It shows a shocking display of social immaturity and arrogance when the religionistas feel their One True Religion and its beliefs should be reflected in a secular government.Last edited by Heraclitus; March 4, 2011, 12:24.Modern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez Dávila
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Originally posted by Elok View PostCanada isn't an empire, it's the partially cast-off territory of a former empire. Hence, no imperial pride. At least, that's how I see it.
Be proud and fly that flag."I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
"I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it." - Mark Twain
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I'm sure HC will be triumphing this victory for 'free speech' and celebrating that the cruel father who tried to restrict the freedom of speech of these nutjobs is getting suitably punished.Jon Miller: MikeH speaks the truth
Jon Miller: MikeH is a shockingly revolting dolt and a masturbatory urine-reeking sideshow freak whose word is as valuable as an aging cow paddy.
We've got both kinds
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I don't think he'll go that far. He'll just quote Jefferson or the ruling itself."The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "
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Originally posted by MikeH View PostI'm sure HC will be triumphing this victory for 'free speech' and celebrating that the cruel father who tried to restrict the freedom of speech of these nutjobs is getting suitably punished.
But in the spirit of the fox news thread. Personal charity to the rescue.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews/201003...s/ynews_ts1390"Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson
“In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.” - Jimmy Carter
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