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[Asher]

I agree with Elok that Americans and Saudi Arabians are both sadly backwards with ****ed up political spectrums.

[Hauldren Collider]

I'd advise just ignoring Asher in this discussion since it seems the only thing he's able to contribute is that Canada is more liberal than the US.

[Elok]

I don't see how anyone could make an argument that WaPo today leans at all to the left. At best, it's centrist. It may have a few left-wingers on it in op-eds, but that doesn't really matter.

If you want to see a left-leaning paper, check out http://www.thestar.ca

BTW, I mean the aggregate of the opinions of the authors, not the populace.

It leans slightly left by American standards. Compare it to other U.S. papers and you'll see them that way. Now, they're a fairly responsible newspaper, and they make a genuine effort to be fair, but by American standards there's a subtle skew towards liberal in most stories, and in the matter of which stories they choose to cover. I think they try to offset it by letting George Will babble about rubbish without hindrance. Most of the time he's simply boring, but every now and then he writes something so out of touch it's hysterical. Like, a few years back, he wrote an article about how wearing jeans, even outside of work, is a deplorable fashion that makes people look slovenly--young people today just don't understand how they send messages with their appearance. In the same column, he implied that adults who play video games should not be allowed to vote.

But I digress. The WaPo was supportive of gay rights before it had the popular support it has today. Global warming skeptics don't get a lot of mention, pro-lifers get token treatment, Republican congresscritters get hammered harder than Dems. And the big editorials, the ones approved by the majority of the editorial board, are almost invariably left-wing.

[Hauldren Collider]

It's a liberal newspaper in what may be the most liberal city in the entire country. It's liberal. Asher, you can never accuse Kuciwalker of being pedantic again.

[Asher]

I'd advise just ignoring Asher in this discussion since it seems the only thing he's able to contribute is that Canada is more liberal than the US.

Hilarious considering all you've been able to do is say "BUT THE CONSTITUTION" in the context of Canadian politics and regulations.

[Elok]

But how can a non-American judge from an American POV? You are asking the impossible.

No, of course he can't, but when an American says "paper X is liberal," and a Canadian replies, "nuh-uh, it's centrist or conservative," apparently judging by his own standards--well, that's not really what was meant, was it?

[Asher]

It's a liberal newspaper in what may be the most liberal city in the entire country.

Oh, jesus ****ing Christ HC.

Have you ever been to San Francisco? Hello?

It's liberal. Asher, you can never accuse Kuciwalker of being pedantic again.

Yes, I can. It's you *******s that keep fixating on the classification of the paper. You brought it up as if it helped your point somehow, Alby kept quoting wikipedia entries that didn't really help him, and Elok is just providing his opinions on it. There's nothing pedantic about it on my behalf. Do you know the definition of the word?

[Elok]

It's a liberal newspaper in what may be the most liberal city in the entire country. It's liberal. Asher, you can never accuse Kuciwalker of being pedantic again.

Portland sounds substantially more liberal than DC to me. Or San Francisco. I mean, the city has enough conservatives to keep the Washington Times in business somehow, and that's owned by the bloody Moonies.

[Asher]

No, of course he can't, but when an American says "paper X is liberal," and a Canadian replies, "nuh-uh, it's centrist or conservative," apparently judging by his own standards--well, that's not really what was meant, was it?

Some people are bright enough to understand that the context of this thread is Canadian politics and regulations. Further, the poster making the comment is Canadian.

Americans need to get the **** over themselves. The majority of the modern world shares a political spectrum that is largely the same, and the US is way offset from it.

You guys aren't special enough to get your own spectrum, use the same one as everyone else and admit democrats are centre-right and Republicans are largely right wing whackjobs.

[notyoueither]

Playing catch-up. Sorry all.

Good luck with that. We cannot reopen the Constitution without dealing with "Quebec issues".

I'd wager our Constitution will not be amended again for a very long time.

I get a good chuckle out of people who think that abolishing the monarchy or the Senate are ever going to happen. They never mention that all ten provinces would have to agree along with both houses of Parliament.

[Wezil]

No, of course he can't, but when an American says "paper X is liberal," and a Canadian replies, "nuh-uh, it's centrist or conservative," apparently judging by his own standards--well, that's not really what was meant, was it?

So he should judge it on what the American says it is?

He can offer you nothing other than a Cdn POV.

A paper is judged by the standards of its own country, or should be.

Unless it is a non-American commenting on it.

[Wezil]

I get a good chuckle out of people who think that abolishing the monarchy or the Senate are ever going to happen. They never mention that all ten provinces would have to agree along with both houses of Parliament.

Not to mention the referendum, which although is not technically required, will be demanded in these post-Charlottetown days.

We have a Constitutional problem in that future amendments are going to be near impossible.

[Hauldren Collider]

Portland sounds substantially more liberal than DC to me. Or San Francisco. I mean, the city has enough conservatives to keep the Washington Times in business somehow, and that's owned by the bloody Moonies.

Actually it's a money-loser for the moonies. The moonies keep it around to have a voice in washington. Also, I know some ex-moonies and all I can say about the Unification Church is that they make the scientologists look as sweet and innocent as the Girl Scouts.

[Wezil]

You guys are just choc-a-bloc with religious nuts.

[Hauldren Collider]

@Asher

Asher, you don't even debate anymore. You just turn your long-since discredited talking points into ad hominem snipes and refuse to acknowledge the slightest dissent in your most outrageous positions. Then you sprinkle your garbage with a healthy dose of anti-American rhetoric: "America is hopeless, America is ignorant, America is doomed, America is evil"--and any other phrases that match this particular pattern of offensive nonsense. Sometimes you mock language use just to throw in another trite insult instead of actually opening your mind to other people's opinions. Quite frankly, your contributions to most recent discussions have been worthless. It doesn't even matter what the topic is about. It doesn't matter if the topic is butter versus margarine. The only thing you ever do is gambit with an overbroad, sweeping statement with some incendiary component and once someone decides to refute it you immediately fall into this pattern of antagonistic empty rhetoric.

It's not worth debating with you anymore because you don't debate. It's like talking to a brick wall, except the brick wall occasionally calls you names and makes predictable insults.