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  • #226
    Originally posted by Asher View Post

    Canada is freer because we actually know the truth. The US is becoming an insidious web of lies.
    Truth defined by the state

    Or alternatively argument ad populum

    Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
    Have you noticed that holocaust deniers are allowed to publish books and websites and newspapers and participate in every form of public discussion in the US?
    This is a important reason why we actually know the holocaust did happen. Thought they are free to do so Holocaust deniers in the US haven't come up anything worth listening to.

    Its scary how much you Westerners are in the dark about how history can be rewritten by government fiat (those of us who grew up under Communism know this very well).

    Free speech in the US makes it a land worth admiring. The EUSSR's many okrug's slide into "muscular liberalism" and the persecution of crimspeak (and even crimethink in some casses) is chilling for a citizen to watch.
    Last edited by Heraclitus; March 2, 2011, 16:30.
    Modern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
    The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
    The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez Dávila

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    • #227
      Originally posted by Al B. Sure! View Post
      HC is a conservative. Ideas like respect for elders and civility are ideas that are heavily espoused by conservatives who often make claims that liberals have degraded those ideas in the minds of the youth. HC may or may not agree with the whole culture war thesis but it is a general belief held by those with similar beliefs as HC. HC is young. HC, with little to no provocation, referred to JRabbit, a man with a daughter older than HC, as a douche and a dumbass.
      You think HC is a conservative? How the hell have you not heard of libertarians by now?

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      • #228
        Originally posted by gribbler View Post
        You think HC is a conservative? How the hell have you not heard of libertarians by now?


        Why? Why are you such an obtuse *******? It was a single smart-ass comment because I wanted to bring attention to the irony of it all. My god. Leave it alone.


        Anyone else not get what I said or the irony in it? Anyone else think it's worthy of further discussion? I'm not derailing this thread further for your sake alone, gribbler.
        "Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
        "I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi

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        • #229
          Originally posted by Al B. Sure! View Post


          Why? Why are you such an obtuse *******? It was a single smart-ass comment because I wanted to bring attention to the irony of it all. My god. Leave it alone.


          Anyone else not get what I said or the irony in it? Anyone else think it's worthy of further discussion? I'm not derailing this thread further for your sake alone, gribbler.
          Just because HC wants Israelis to skull **** Palestinians doesn't mean he's a conservative. There's nothing ironic about an obvious libertarian acting unlike a conservative.

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          • #230
            Originally posted by gribbler View Post
            Just because HC wants Israelis to skull **** Palestinians doesn't mean he's a conservative. There's nothing ironic about an obvious libertarian acting unlike a conservative.
            Duh. Even Libertarians are sometimes ethnocentric.
            Modern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
            The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
            The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez Dávila

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            • #231
              Originally posted by Al B. Sure! View Post
              Asher, seriously... I am fast losing any respect for you. You're arrogant so you'll probably just brush this aside and go about your business but, I'm noticing a pattern of you taking a position, getting entrenched, and disregarding anything brought up in a discussion. You have on two confirmed occasions with me not read posts. The case with regards to hockey was especially disturbing because you insulted me while blabbering about I'm wrong because of a point which was thoroughly and very clearly conceded and responded to in my post but you didn't read the post beyond the first sentence.
              Your posts are seldom worth reading because you seldom say anything worthwhile.

              I thought that wikipedia quote thoroughly shows how nuanced the Post is and how varied its contributers are so definitive judgments about its political slant are brash. Yet you somehow claim that that very quote somehow supports your argument? What post did you read?
              Of course there is a variety of contributors with a variety of opinions. I think it's centre-right from my own reading, and several people you quoted also discuss how it's becoming more right-wing.
              "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
              Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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              • #232
                Originally posted by Al B. Sure! View Post
                Look... there are some people who tend to be liberals who believe the Post is conservative. There are others who tend to be conservatives who believe it is liberal. Wow! What a coincidence!

                So what does that mean? That means the truth is probably far more nuanced than what any of those people believe!
                Where did I ever say it's NOT nuanced?

                The centre-right is an aggregate. I've seldom seen anything very left-wing in their op-ed (feel free to link some...), but I've seen quite a few neo-con mouthpieces. Most of it is centrist with tendencies to the right.
                "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                • #233
                  Originally posted by Asher View Post
                  Where did I ever say it's NOT nuanced?

                  The centre-right is an aggregate. I've seldom seen anything very left-wing in their op-ed (feel free to link some...), but I've seen quite a few neo-con mouthpieces. Most of it is centrist with tendencies to the right.
                  Ezra Klein
                  "Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
                  "I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi

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                  • #234
                    Originally posted by Asher View Post
                    Where did I ever say it's NOT nuanced?

                    The centre-right is an aggregate. I've seldom seen anything very left-wing in their op-ed (feel free to link some...), but I've seen quite a few neo-con mouthpieces. Most of it is centrist with tendencies to the right.
                    What differentiates center right from center and center-left?

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                    • #235
                      Originally posted by Asher View Post
                      Yes, British English is definitely a trait of a Francophile.
                      Apparently. How else would you explain how British people spell center as centre or theater as theatre. They spell things like the French. You explain it.
                      "Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
                      "I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi

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                      • #236
                        Originally posted by Asher View Post
                        All they need is a majority of parliament and two-thirds of the provincial legislatures to agree to it. In a case like this, it would not be hard given how much support the regulation has.
                        Playing catch-up. Sorry all.

                        Good luck with that. We cannot reopen the Constitution without dealing with "Quebec issues".

                        I'd wager our Constitution will not be amended again for a very long time.
                        "I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
                        "I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it." - Mark Twain

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                        • #237
                          Originally posted by Al B. Sure! View Post
                          Ezra Klein
                          Skimming, I see a democrat but I don't see anything incredibly Liberal. Examples?
                          "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                          Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                          • #238
                            Originally posted by Wezil View Post
                            Playing catch-up. Sorry all.

                            Good luck with that. We cannot reopen the Constitution without dealing with "Quebec issues".

                            I'd wager our Constitution will not be amended again for a very long time.
                            It's not even needed with the notwithstanding clause, fortunately. Parliament can just say "nope, not gonna listen to section 2" and legislate accordingly.
                            "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                            Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                            • #239
                              Originally posted by Al B. Sure! View Post
                              Apparently. How else would you explain how British people spell center as centre or theater as theatre. They spell things like the French. You explain it.
                              That's the origin of the word. The fact that you've changed the spelling subsequently doesn't change its origin.
                              "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                              Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                              • #240
                                Originally posted by gribbler View Post
                                What differentiates center right from center and center-left?
                                The aggregate of opinions.

                                In Canadian terms, The Globe & Mail is a centrist newspaper. The Toronto Star is a left-wing newspaper. The National Post is a right-wing newspaper. The Calgary Herald is a centre-right paper.

                                WaPo is certainly more right-wing than the Globe & Mail.
                                "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                                Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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