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[Kidlicious]

Faith is the natural state of human existence.

No. That is not the same as religious faith. That is not the kind of faith that Abraham had. Abraham had faith in the absurd, not faith in the sun coming up in the morning. Everyone has faith in the sun coming up. That's not hard to do. I'm talking about being able to have faith in the absurd.

Reason and rationality are exceptional. It takes rational thought to understand orbital mechanics, gravity, the brain, our own cognitive biases, etc.

Eh.. It's takes education, that is all. It's not exceptional in the least. Anyone can do it if they have intelligence.

[Nikolai]

Hence the irrational aspect of it.

I see your point. But I'd say rationality is not everything that is. Irrationality sounds negative. I don't see faith as negative, so I'm wary of the term.

[SlowwHand]

Faith is faith, Kid.

[giblets]

That's hypothetical, however I would disagree.

Why would it be impossible to believe in a God if there were no God? There are many other gods that many people believe in, and you don't think they exist do you?

[Kidlicious]

How so?
I wish I could believe in god, it'd make certain things easier. God doesn't exist, so it'd be silly to believe in him.
I wish I could believe that I'm a millionare, it'd be really cool to have all that money. I am not a millionaire, so believing I am is silly.

You originally said that you wish to believe in God, and that you wish to be a millionaire. If you wish to believe in God, you are already well on your way. If you wish to be a millionaire you may or may not get there. What you sow in the spirit world, you reap in multiplication. The same is not necessarily true about the material world.

[rah]

I see your point. But I'd say rationality is not everything that is. Irrationality sounds negative. I don't see faith as negative, so I'm wary of the term.

I don't see faith as negative either but I don't think not rational sounds much better than irrational.

[Kidlicious]

Faith is faith, Kid.

Faith in the sun rising is not the same as faith that Jesus is the Son of God. One is an entirely different thing.

[Kidlicious]

Why would it be impossible to believe in a God if there were no God? There are many other gods that many people believe in, and you don't think they exist do you?

Not impossible, but not likely. If no one ever thought of unicorns would you be able to believe in them?

[giblets]

Not impossible, but not likely. If no one ever thought of unicorns would you be able to believe in them?

I'm not sure what you're getting at. People have believed in unicorns in the past, and they're not real.

[dannubis]

I'm not sure what you're getting at. People have believed in unicorns in the past, and they're not real.

[Kidlicious]

I'm not sure what you're getting at. People have believed in unicorns in the past, and they're not real.

I'm saying that because people are wired to believe in God. It is likely that he exists. I believe that God created humans to seek him. If there were no God, then likely we would have no idea of him. Now of course there is the question of the likeliness of us existing if God himself, did not exist.

[Lorizael]

No. That is not the same as religious faith. That is not the kind of faith that Abraham had. Abraham had faith in the absurd, not faith in the sun coming up in the morning. Everyone has faith in the sun coming up. That's not hard to do. I'm talking about being able to have faith in the absurd.

Not all of the ideas I mentioned there are mundane articles of faith. People have faith that things used to be better back in the old days, that their memories are reliable, that scary, low probability events are likely to happen to them, that homeopathic remedies are anything more than sugar pills, that their eyes see reality, that friends give better accounts of events than enemies, and so on. We humans have faith in absurd ideas all the time. Rationality is the exception.

Eh.. It's takes education, that is all. It's not exceptional in the least. Anyone can do it if they have intelligence.

No, it takes far more than just education. Everyone in America goes to school and gets an education, but almost no one in America really understands anything about the rational science behind our world.

[SlowwHand]

Faith in the sun rising is not the same as faith that Jesus is the Son of God. One is an entirely different thing.

Incorrect. It's faith in two different things, but it's still faith.

[giblets]

I'm saying that because people are wired to believe in God. It is likely that he exists. I believe that God created humans to seek him. If there were no God, then likely we would have no idea of him. Now of course there is the question of the likeliness of us existing if God himself, did not exist.

How are people "wired" to believe in Yahweh?

[dannubis]

I'm saying that because people are wired to believe in God. It is likely that he exists. I believe that God created humans to seek him. If there were no God, then likely we would have no idea of him. Now of course there is the question of the likeliness of us existing if God himself, did not exist.

No, people are wired to survive. We inevitably die, we know that. Now guess around what central fact all religions in this world are centered ? Yes, death and the possibility to "survive" it.