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Originally posted by Asher View PostYeah, I'm the knee-jerk guy, you're the one who replied "Israel" followed by three and a half dozen thumbs up.
I'm not anti-Israel, I'm anti-meddling with other people's ****. That includes your country invading Iraq, it includes Israel assassinating other people using fake passports from other countries in other countries, just as it includes them ****ing with Iran in this case.If there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
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That's pretty deep thinking. Israel should be allowed to defend itself. So, too, should Iran, yes?
Therefore, it would be perfectly fine for Iran to attack Israel, yes? Israel is obviously attacking them."The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "
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The arithmetic here is simple. Iran vs. Israel: WHO DO I LIKE MORE AND WOULD PREFER TO BE SUCCESSFUL IN THIS QUASI WAR?
ME: The democracy that doesn't kill people for being homosexual or Jewish!
ASHER: The other one, that does!
ME: The country that doesn't torture and kill its own people for political reasons!
ASHER: The other one, that does!If there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
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I don't care. Iran is not my country, I'm not going to dictate how they should run their country. I'm perfectly happy accepting all of their fleeing homosexuals in Canada (I know two). We're better off for it."The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "
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You don't get killed for being Jewish in Iran. Iran has 30,000 Jewish people and they're given there own representatives in the Iranian legislature. Compare it to Saudi Arabia, which allows no Jews at all, and they are considered allies.
It's amazing, for someone who is still young, HC sounds like a middle aged Neo-Con shill.
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Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View PostThe arithmetic here is simple. Iran vs. Israel: WHO DO I LIKE MORE AND WOULD PREFER TO BE SUCCESSFUL IN THIS QUASI WAR?
ME: The democracy that doesn't kill people for being homosexual or Jewish!
ASHER: The other one, that does!
ME: The country that doesn't torture and kill its own people for political reasons!
ASHER: The other one, that does!
You guys have yet to learn to mind your own ****ing business.
People don't hate you for your "freedom" (which is a farce, as anyone who has ever flown in the US will tell you), they hate you because you constantly try to dictate how other people run their countries. You're global bullies, and then you get very upset when people strike back at you.
I hope sometime soon, you guys figure this out, because it's a damn shame."The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "
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Originally posted by Riesstiu IV View PostYou don't get killed for being Jewish in Iran. Iran has 30,000 Jewish people and they're given there own representatives in the Iranian legislature. Compare it to Saudi Arabia, which allows no Jews at all, and they are considered allies.If there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
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Originally posted by Asher View PostI don't care. Iran is not my country, I'm not going to dictate how they should run their country. I'm perfectly happy accepting all of their fleeing homosexuals in Canada (I know two). We're better off for it.
I DON'T ****ING MIND THE HOLOCAUST BECAUSE NOW NEW YORK IS LIKE JEW CENTRAL. **** this ****, Asher you are completely bonkers.If there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
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They're is no denying a lot of Jews fled during the Iranian Revolution but the treatment of Jews and Armenian Christians in Iran is far better than how they are treated in most Arab nations, most of which have no Jewish populations left. Outside of Israel, Iran is one of the very few places in the middle east were you can find Jewish communities.
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The wikipedia says:
Ayatollah Khomeini met with the Jewish community upon his return from exile in Paris and issued a fatwa decreeing that the Jews were to be protected.Haroun Yashyaei, a film producer and former chairman of the Central Jewish Community in Iran said:
"Khomeini didn't mix up our community with Israel and Zionism - he saw us as Iranians.""Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
"I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi
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Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View PostOh boy, now this is good stuff. I don't mind that they kill gays in Iran for being gay cuz then all the gay guys go to Canada!
I DON'T ****ING MIND THE HOLOCAUST BECAUSE NOW NEW YORK IS LIKE JEW CENTRAL. **** this ****, Asher you are completely bonkers.
I never said I don't mind, I just said it's not my place to instill my values on other countries. If there's systematic genocide, that's another thing -- one that could be resolved by more than a single country will fix by creating a ****ing computer virus.
PS: We all know the reason Israel is constantly ****ing Iran has everything to do with religion and nothing to do with homosexuality."The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "
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I mind that the US denies homosexuals equal rights -- not unlike Iran-- but I'm not going to start trying to destabilize the country and attack it because I mind...
"The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "
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So even if you do want to go ahead and say "Okay, so they didn't kill or exile ALL the Jews", which doesn't cut it for me, that still leaves the question of:
1. Women getting stoned for being raped
2. No homosexuals in Iran
3. Fraudulent democracy
In terms of garnering my sympathy, I think Israel is the clear winner here.
As per godwin, I think it's not a godwin when you've got actual genocide going on. (Ok it's not technically genocide but it's still mass murder so sue me)If there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
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