It's time for another Ask Asher thread

[giblets]

The bubble zone law? The bubble zone law violates her Charter right to freedom of expression. So she was upholding the law by breaking an unconstitutional law.

The law protects the right to security of the person... people can still be anti-abortion, they just can't inflict psychological harm on abortion patients.

[Ben Kenobi]

The law protects the right to security of the person... people can still be anti-abortion, they just can't inflict psychological harm on abortion patients.

This amounts to the same as freedom from offensive speech. Merely protesting isn't considered to be a threat to the security of the person unless there is violence of some sort. The court doesn't put a burden to protesters to avoid causing 'psychological harm'.

[Ben Kenobi]

Mental damage to a woman can be much worse then physical damage.

True. What about greenpeace folks with pictures of butchered whales? If they are permitted to demonstrate on public property, I cannot argue against prolifers doing the same.

But just because the the woman doesn't agree with you, you find it acceptable to inflict mental torment with a chance of doing lasting damage. Let god judge and just stfu.

I'm sorry. One of our responsibilities as christians is to preach the word, part of which says that killing the innocent and the helpless children is wrong. All sin hurts people, regardless of whether we speak up or not. Women are going to be hurt by abortion and continue to be hurt by abortion.

If we can prevent one woman from killing her child, and suffering the emotional and physical consequences, then we have helped them and saved the life of their child.

You seem to believe that if no one talks about it that women do not suffer. They do suffer, rah.

And having people shout murderer while you're having an abortion is very likely to cause mental stress. But I guess you don't care about that. What a douche.

Have you ever been? The only people I've ever seen shout at pro life demonstrations are the counter-demonstrators. Clearly they aren't concerned about hurting peoples feelings.

[Ben Kenobi]

I think the protesters should start targeting Catholic Churches since Catholics kill more babies than any other religion. They kill more babies a year in the US than the population of Miami. This cult needs to be wiped out before they kill all the babies. No other religion harbors so many murderes.

As a proportion of the population, those with no faith at all are more likely to kill their children. So prolifers would be more effective going out into public than they would be staying with the Church.

[rah]

Ok, you just said that since they don't agree with you, they're fair game. Douche.

[monolith94]

As a proportion of the population, those with no faith at all are more likely to kill their children. So prolifers would be more effective going out into public than they would be staying with the Church.

May I ask where you're pulling this statistic from, brah?

[giblets]

Ok, you just said that since they don't agree with you, they're fair game. Douche.

Yep, and if you try to stop him from harassing vulnerable women because they don't do what he wants, you're the totalitarian.

[Ben Kenobi]

May I ask where you're pulling this statistic from, brah?

It's from AGI.

Catholics have an abortion rate of 22/1000 and those with no faith are around 31/1000. So about 50 percent higher.

http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/journals/3422602.html

[Ben Kenobi]

Yep, and if you try to stop him from harassing vulnerable women because they don't do what he wants, you're the totalitarian

So picketing abortion clinics harasses women?

How about killing their babies?

[giblets]

You still haven't made any convincing arguments for fetuses being people. No one is "killing their babies".

[Ben Kenobi]

Fine, what are they then? Aliens?

[giblets]

Fine, what are they then? Aliens?

They are human fetuses. Why should anyone consider a human fetus a person? Early in the pregnancy they can't feel pain, don't have emotions, have no intelligence, etc.

[Ben Kenobi]

They are human fetuses. Why should anyone consider a human fetus a person? Early in the pregnancy they can't feel pain, don't have emotions, have no intelligence, etc.

So what makes you a person is your ability to do stuff? Does it mean that someone with less than average function is less of a person, and someone who can do stuff better is more of a person?

[giblets]

So what makes you a person is your ability to do stuff? Does it mean that someone with less than average function is less of a person, and someone who can do stuff better is more of a person?

Personhood is binary, and I consider emotions, making decisions, having intelligence, self awareness, etc. to be indicators.

[Ben Kenobi]

Personhood is binary, and I consider emotions, making decisions, having intelligence, self awareness, etc. to be indicators

How exactly does an infant, "make decisions'?