Originally posted by Ben Kenobi
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The fact that muslims took palestine from the christians in the 7th century does not justify christian invasions of palestine in the 11th century, idiot.
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Yet you are ready to award all land currently occupied by Israel to Israel, with no regard for Palestinians. Why is this? More importantly, are you sure religion isn't coloring your politics again?So who's is it Garth? Do you award it to the Comanches? Do you award it to the Apaches? This whole 'ancestral homeland' is bull. The reason for these conflicts between these groups is because they disagreed over precisely what constituted ancestral homeland.
Why can't you just acknowledge, as I do, that wrongs were committed by all parties, including the USA? That's all anyone here is trying to point out - I don't think anyone here would dispute the fact that some of the Native Americans were, indeed, savages. This doesn't preclude you from acknowledging that the world is a better place in spite of the wrongs committed in North America from 1492-18xx, as I also acknowledge.
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Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui View PostYou want to know when they brought this up? May 31. The day AFTER my 30th birthday. Great birthday present Mom & Dad. That was the last time I spoke to them, but they were pretty final about their opinion.Originally posted by Jon Miller View PostI am sorry.
Often time can heal wounds.
JM
Even though I know nothing about your parents, I agree with Jon. It has been less than a month, maybe they'll cool off soon. Still sucks though.
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So it was wrong for Muslims to invade Christian lands. Thank you. That's all I was after.Might doesn't make right. It's wrong to invade other people's lands and take things from others. It's moot because everyone who was alive then is dead now, but it was wrong at the time.
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Might doesn't make right. It's wrong to invade other people's lands and take things from others. It's moot because everyone who was alive then is dead now, but it was wrong at the time.Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View PostBut it does give the victor the right to do whatever he wants with the land.
Might makes right?
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But it does give the victor the right to do whatever he wants with the land.It's not yours to award or divide. It certainly isn't yours to take. The fact that there is a conflict going on somewhere in the world does not give white people the right to decide what to do the land.
Might makes right?
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It's not yours to award or divide. It certainly isn't yours to take. The fact that there is a conflict going on somewhere in the world does not give white people the right to decide what to do the land.Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View PostSo who's is it Garth? Do you award it to the Comanches? Do you award it to the Apaches? This whole 'ancestral homeland' is bull. The reason for these conflicts between these groups is because they disagreed over precisely what constituted ancestral homeland.
Do you divide it into three pieces?
What's the answer here Garth? Who owns the land?
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Different situation. We know about that land. We know who used to own the land. The same is not true for land that you've just recently discovered.I talk to tribe A, they say it belongs to Israel. I talk to tribe B, they say it belongs to Palestine. I guess it's time for the US to give some money to a third party who "owns" the land and slaughter everyone who lives there
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So who's is it Garth? Do you award it to the Comanches? Do you award it to the Apaches? This whole 'ancestral homeland' is bull. The reason for these conflicts between these groups is because they disagreed over precisely what constituted ancestral homeland.It sure as hell isn't mine. If I settle on that I'd expect 3 groups to be mad at me then.
Do you divide it into three pieces?
What's the answer here Garth? Who owns the land?
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That was their genius. Care to dig the hole further? Muslims and Hindus trusted a British governor more than they trusted each other.I guess the British were collaborating with the people of India. Brilliant.
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I talk to tribe A, they say it belongs to Israel. I talk to tribe B, they say it belongs to Palestine. I guess it's time for the US to give some money to a third party who "owns" the land and slaughter everyone who lives there.
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It sure as hell isn't mine. If I settle on that I'd expect 3 groups to be mad at me then.Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View PostFair enough.
I talk to tribe A, the Comanches. They say it's their land.
I talk to tribe B, the Apache. They say it's their land.
I talk to the Mexicans. They say it's their land.
Who's land is it, rah? Apache, Comanche or Mexican?
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