Video on how to get a woman?

[Heraclitus]

We're trying to help Albert have better relationships, because we think it'll be better for him.

Speak for yourself. I'm trying to get Alby laid, and step one towards that goal is to stop listening to dorks like Heraclitus/aneeshm and avoid getting obsessed with bull**** "game" techniques.

In other words you don't belive in the scientific method?


Since game is nothing else but running social experiments on a massive scale and figuring out what works for you.

[Heraclitus]

You are however quite right I am a nerd. I however also get laid.

[Jon Miller]

Is a computer completely defined by being an Intel Corei7? Or does the software/etc matter? (including how the software is taken care of/what thngs are downloaded/settings/etc)

JM

[Heraclitus]

Is a computer completely defined by being an Intel Corei7? Or does the software/etc matter? (including how the software is taken care of/what thngs are downloaded/settings/etc)

JM

It dosen't change that the software its running is just software. There is nothing transcendent about the computer. I readily admit romantic love is different from other shared emotions, but so is fear or hate or platonic love or feelings of loyalty.


Tell me how would you deal with reality if we found out the human mind is a Turing machine? (I'm not saying it is. Just hypothetically)

[Drake Tungsten]

In other words you don't belive in the scientific method?

Explain to me how the Mystery Method is testable and maybe I'll change my mind.

[Heraclitus]

In other words you don't belive in the scientific method?

Explain to me how the Mystery Method is testable and maybe I'll change my mind.

To really test it one would need to break it down into smaller bits. But a simplistic view would be the following:


You take 3 large representative groups of men.


You train and drill one group in various bull**** methods put together at random.

You train and drill another group in Mystery Method.

You do nothing with the third group.



The group that gets the most lays wins.



Also even baring direct experimentation a large part of it is based on EvoPsych assumptions which are testable. Female hypergamy for example.

[Jon Miller]

It dosen't change that the software its running is just software. There is nothing transcendent about the computer. I readily admit romantic love is different from other shared emotions, but so is fear or hate or platonic love or feelings of loyalty.


Tell me how would you deal with reality if we found out the human mind is a Turing machine? (I'm not saying it is. Just hypothetically)

It was an example, showing you that the human is more than just some chemicals just like the computer is more than just some transistors.

Obviously it isn't perfect as an analogy, I think that humans and sentience/consciousness is a lot more than 'just software'.

As far as the possibility that I am wrong, so what? Just like I could be wrong in thinking that evolution is correct, or that quantum electro-dynamics is correct, or that God exists, or all the other things that I will tell you is true.

JM

[Al B. Sure!]

Don't worry. I would never try to turn into a douche to get women. I feel that the women I would attract that way are ultimately the women I wouldn't want or they would eventually leave me once they find out who I really am (which is inevitable). But I do need to take heed of some of these game insights to better understand how to act so that I don't come off like a desperate loser or that I don't say or do the wrong things (which I seem to be doing).

Ultimately, that's the problem. Everyone else learns this stuff in high school when it's okay to make stupid mistakes because girls aren't aware yet. Now, I'm approaching 25 year old women with the dating skills of a 13 year old. I need a crash course on what to say, what to do, and how not to mess up. I have never learned this. And it's not as simple as be yourself... there is definitely game involved in dating. Even if you think you're not using game in some way, that's only because it's become intuitive for you through practice to the point where it doesn't seem like game at all to you, just you being yourself. It's not intuitive for me yet. Even little things like I don't know how to look at a woman... I've been told by some girls that I look at them weird... not exactly creepy but not positive at all.

[David Floyd]

This is all ****ING STUPID. Heraclitus, Imran, Bugs, Mike, aneeshm, etc. - you guys ARE ALL RIGHT! ****!

Hera and Imran will never, ever date the same type of woman. The women Imran dates are not the same women who Hera dates - although if a woman is going to cheat on Imran, it would be with someone like Hera, or myself. A woman who would date Hera, would never date a guy like Imran, or if she did, the relationship wouldn't last very long because Imran's smart enough to ditch her. Why the **** are you guys arguing? You're ALL right, it just depends on the type of woman involved.

AS, you need to take a good hard look at yourself, and understand something. It's been said before, but you need to understand it. Women are NOT turned on by virgins who don't want to have sex. Not the type of woman Hera or myself dates, not the type of woman Bugs would date, and not even the type of woman Imran would date. Yes, there are some women out there who are OK with this - but 99% of them are going to be ultra-religious NUTTERS. Sex is natural, and the sooner you understand this the better. I'm not saying go **** everyone in sight, but for Christ's sake, get over yourself. Taking sex off the table removes, in and of itself, the vast, vast majority of women out there. You wonder why you can't find a girlfriend? That's the ****ing reason! Either you tell them, or you put off that vibe, or both.

I bet any amount of money that if you were to get laid once, and change your attitude to one where you aren't going out trying to have sex every night or with anyone, but are also not opposed to having sex with a woman with whom you are dating, your woman problems would disappear overnight. I can tell you for a fact that if the two of us went out, given your looks, you would attract the women over, and I would probably end up sleeping with one of them. You might be better looking, but I can talk to women, and I can have a good time with women. That's an attractive quality. And again, it doesn't have to be about the sex - it is for me, but it doesn't have to be for you. You just need to have sex once, and then modify your attitude about it.

Is there some reason you'd care to share why you are so opposed to having sex right now? I really, honestly, think that's your problem. Hera and Imran and Jon are going to argue back and forth all month long - ****, they have. It's not doing you any good, because everything all of them are saying is basically correct, and you intellectually know most of what they are saying. That isn't your problem. You and I both know what your problem is - you need to either pony up a reason why you refuse to have sex, or you need to accept the fact that you are NOT going to find a girlfriend anytime soon.

[Bugs ****ing Bunny]

Why the **** are you guys arguing?

Because it's an entirely reasonable response to abject and objectionable dickishness.

[David Floyd]

Fair enough. It's also fair to say that both parties are right in this case. Maybe not "morally", but certain in reality.

[Imran Siddiqui]

What Bugs said. Also, we're trying to prevent Alby from being like Heraclitus. There are enough Heraclitus's in the world and preventing the creation of another one is a worthy goal .

[OzzyKP]

I agree with David. Different tactics for different girls. I think the more accurate description of what Imran and others are trying to do is encouraging AS to go after the non-shallow girls who would value non Hera tactics.

That's what I've been saying all along.

[David Floyd]

Yeah, but non shallow girls who actually value it when a guy tries to care about them are so rare as to be almost non-existent. And the ones who would go for a virgin are even rarer.

[Bugs ****ing Bunny]

Not in the slightest, Floyd. They just have built-in Arsehole Detectors, and that's why your paths rarely cross.