Sex abuse scandal. Guess the religion?

[Asher]

Which is why they report the fact that 85 percent of the victims are boys. Oh wait, they don't actually bother reporting that. Quel surprise.

It is, indeed, quite shocking that more girls are not molested in the boy scouts. It is also, indeed, quite shocking that more of the altar boys molested are not girls.

Which people? Gay pedophiles? You're the only one providing cover for them Asher.

I'm pretty sure I'm 100% all-for using the full extent of the law to prosecute, convict, and imprison any child molester.

You're the one on here begging us to let them go.

[BlackCat]

Ehrmn, that sounds more like a confession of guiilt.
Well, minor xpost may have happen concerned post is #425.

[Ben Kenobi]

It is, indeed, quite shocking that more girls are not molested in the boy scouts. It is also, indeed, quite shocking that more of the altar boys molested are not girls.

So you aren't upset that the gay men who are in contact with boys choose to molest these kids? It would bother me, that's for sure.

You're the one on here begging us to let them go.

Quote would be nice right about now. I said no such thing.

I have said that I think the current secular climate of prosecution is not harsh enough.

[Asher]

Quote would be nice right about now. I said no such thing.

So you're all for bringing these priests to trial and convicting them in the US court system? And also all of the people who helped cover up these allegations and transferred priests to new areas to molest children?

So you aren't upset that the gay men who are in contact with boys choose to molest these kids? It would bother me, that's for sure.

They're not gay men, they are celibate priests or (straight) married boy scout adults, for the most part.

[BlackCat]

I think that's everyone.



In otherwords, there's no separation at all between Church and state, rather that the church is simply an arm of the state.

No, any church (remember, it's not only one church that is seperated from the state) are seperated from the state. US could easily be hinduistic and still be in according with the constitution. Christianity isn't a part of it.

[Ben Kenobi]

So you're all for bringing these priests to trial and convicting them in the US court system?

If I thought the system was ineffective and failed to deal with the problem, why would I want them to be subject to it?

And also all of the people who helped cover up these allegations and transferred priests to new areas to molest children?

From 30 years ago? How many are still left?

[Ben Kenobi]

No, any church (remember, it's not only one church that is seperated from the state) are seperated from the state.

But they aren't separate from the church. The church is subordinate to the state. There's no separation.

The only way there is separation is if it works both ways, that the state is not permitted to interfere in the Church, and vice versa.

US could easily be hinduistic and still be in according with the constitution. Christianity isn't a part of it.

The problem with making the church 'subordinate' is that the church becomes 'secular' as well. The correct relationship is for the state to stop infringing on the church. You are right that Christianity isn't a part of the state, but that's not the point I am raising. I am making the point that the Church has become secular. The church is no longer in the Church if the church is subordinate to the state.

[Asher]

If I thought the system was ineffective and failed to deal with the problem, why would I want them to be subject to it?

I just want to make it very clear you are not in favour of bringing suspected child molesters to justice in the court system.

One might observe that this is you defending the child molesters.

[Asher]

But they aren't separate from the church. The church is subordinate to the state. There's no separation.

The only way there is separation is if it works both ways, that the state is not permitted to interfere in the Church, and vice versa.



The problem with making the church 'subordinate' is that the church becomes 'secular' as well. The correct relationship is for the state to stop infringing on the church. You are right that Christianity isn't a part of the state, but that's not the point I am raising. I am making the point that the Church has become secular. The church is no longer in the Church if the church is subordinate to the state.

You are so ****ing stupid. There are no words.

Please tell the students you 'tutor' that you're ****ing them up for life. I'm serious. You are hopeless.

[BlackCat]

What does the phrase, "while the future pope was in charge", of what? The diocese? There's a reason why this is so vague

Why do you consider this

One priest suspected of molesting boys

as vague ?

[BlackCat]

If I thought the system was ineffective and failed to deal with the problem, why would I want them to be subject to it?



From 30 years ago? How many are still left?

That is really irrelevant - it doesnt matter if you think it's appropriate or not.

[Rufus T. Firefly]

Oh, never mind.

[Main_Brain]

Ha! If you knew half the **** that goes down in buddhist monasteries..

[Ming]

If I thought the system was ineffective and failed to deal with the problem, why would I want them to be subject to it?

So... you are claiming that the RCC method of moving priests to a new parish without telling it's members, and in some cases, allowing the accused to rape all over again right away is more effective than sending them to jail and putting them on a national list available to all.

Gee... why don't we ask the victims which they would prefer... instead of some moron with his nose up the ass of the RCC.

[Wezil]

Still arguing with the crazy person?

Oh, never mind.

It's pointless.

He won't admit his errors (crazy people don't always realise they are crazy) so all I can presume is people enjoy trouncing Ben in debate. Not much of an accomplishment seeing his obvious mental handicap but hey if that's what turns your crank.