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I see investment in Africa as great but The Guardian trashes it.
It's for precisely that reason that I'm going to ignore your interjections.
Why? Do you not like discussing how things went down in England? I think the point is valid. England never has had a good track of respecting property rights especially for this sort of thing.
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No, I just think he's quite aware that arguing with you is a waste of time
It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
RIP Tony Bogey & Baron O
Africa needs educated and financially secure people who will make the problem of poverty their own - you know, live in it... work towards fixing it... real commitment (The Neo-Exodus [tm]).
Money and synthetic agriculture is just a bandaid and sometimes does as much long term harm as short term good.
Who said I'm arguing with him? He's for property rights. I'm not against him at all here. Just trying to discuss.
Scouse Git (2)La Fayette Adam SmithSolomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
"Remember the night we broke the windows in this old house? This is what I wished for..."
2015 APOLYTON FANTASY FOOTBALL CHAMPION!
No, I just think he's quite aware that discussing anything with you is a waste of time
It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
RIP Tony Bogey & Baron O
Well ok. I don't think he's wrong, and I think this is an interesting topic, and I value his opinion, so.
When I ask if the agricultural revolution were possible without depriving farmers of their land, I'm asking an honest question.
If he chooses not to engage, that's fine, but I'm not trying to be combative here.
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Africa needs a different agricultural revolution that includes social and political revolution. Not another so-called "green" revolution. The circumstances are not the same as industrial developed countries of the early-mid 1900s, and the risks are now well known.
Fortunately, organic agriculture in Africa is a resistance movement not a revolutionary one. The revolution lies beyond organic.
Africa needs educated and financially secure people who will make the problem of poverty their own - you know, live in it... work towards fixing it... real commitment (The Neo-Exodus [tm]).
Money and synthetic agriculture is just a bandaid and sometimes does as much long term harm as short term good.
I can agree with that to a certain extent but how do you get those educated people and the needed halfway decent infrastructure without foreign investment? You need tax revenue to pay for schools and to build up the country's infrastructure. Individually, the market is to small for African states to try the go it alone approach that the US used in the 19th century and which China is using now.
Volunteers. NGOs. Expatriates. I call it The Neo-Exodus. The point is, we need boots on the ground not checks in the mail. Until we truly make the problems our own, we are just making ourselves feel better - we're not really fixing anything.
Of course, foreign investment can feed into this but we need to re-evaluate trade injustices. I would say ethical foreign investment is better than foreign aid payments or food shipments. We should also note that anti-foreign-meddling or over-the-top ethical trade rhetoric can be taken too far, as in the case of Chavez - which brings us to the commie-guardian article in the OP.
For an excellent example of foreign-investment and trade gone horribly wrong, look at the cut-flower industry in S. America (for the US) and Africa (for Europe). For an excellent example of aid gone horribly wrong, witness the destruction of local and regional markets at the hand of subsidized "aid" grain from the US (which largely functions only to stabilize our domestic prices).
NGOs can make small differences in local areas but there has never been a country which went from undeveloped to developed based on the work of NGOs. Also volunteers are nice but there just aren't enough to do the massive jobs for years on end for that to be the basis for real development. Real development comes with economic growth and foreign direct investment is the proven way to jump start broad based real economic growth & development. I'll go with the proven strategy, thank you.
Foreign investment is not the same thing as handouts.
Take those green houses in the OP. The government got money for the lease, I bet you most of the constuction is being done via local labor (even if the technical stuff isn't) and they added 1,000 steady jobs to the local economy not to mention any taxes on the buisness. That is investment.
Dropping off bags or rice so that the poor can cling on to life for another year with nothing to show for it is entirely different.
"The DPRK is still in a state of war with the U.S. It's called a black out." - Che explaining why orbital nightime pictures of NK show few lights. Seriously.
The main problem in Africa is poor governance and lack of free market economic principles to generate growth higher then the birth rate.
As for your idea of using volunteers to create real lasting economic development... The closest thing anyone has ever tried to do that is Mao's Great Leap Forward which utilized hundreds of millions of people for over a decade doing the kind of volunteer work you want and the Great Leap Forward is universally accepted to have been a total failure even by the Chinese Communist Party.
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