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  • #61
    Example please because average income and standard of living has been going up in Latin America for decades.
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    • #62
      Yeah, mexicans now richer than americans!
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      • #63
        Originally posted by Oerdin View Post
        Example please because average income and standard of living has been going up in Latin America for decades.
        Indicators of progress in overcoming poverty in Latin America have been heralded recently by international institutions. Yet a closer look at data from the World Bank and the United Nations reveals contradictions that are not easily resolved by reference to the underlying methodologies. This paper provides an introduction to how poverty is measured, what the data indicate about trends in poverty, and reasons to tread cautiously in interpreting it as evidence of progress or stagnation. While significant progress has been achieved in a few large countries, the poorest countries are still very poor, and some countries have even seen increases in their poverty rates despite economic growth.
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        • #64
          The Chinese are investing in Africa and providing the labour as well. I can easily see them increasing the production of commerce crops quite substantially there.
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          • #65
            And how will that benefit Africa?
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            • #66
              Originally posted by Bugs ****ing Bunny View Post
              And how will that benefit Africa?
              Where did I say it will benefit Africans?

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              I can however think of a few things:
              -They can't import everything, they don't rule any slice of Africa yet so some stimulation to the local economy must be happening.
              -Helps the global economy thus indirectly helping Africans.
              -Larger bribes for local officals.
              Modern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
              The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
              The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez Dávila

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              • #67
                Originally posted by Heraclitus View Post
                Where did I say it will benefit Africans?

                Edit:
                I can however think of a few things:
                -They can't import everything, they don't rule any slice of Africa yet so some stimulation to the local economy must be happening.
                How can money deposited in swiss banks help the local economy ?
                -Helps the global economy thus indirectly helping Africans.
                Africans being paid what is just enough to keep them alive may help chinese economy - I'm a bit unsecure how it help africans.
                -Larger bribes for local officals.
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                • #68
                  The Chinese where untill recently only paid just enough to keep them alive.... shouldn't cheap labour in Africa attract investors? Perhaps if there where a few stable authoritarian regimes Africa could do what China and India are doing sometime in the 22nd century?
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                  The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez Dávila

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                  • #69
                    I don't like the Chinese habit of importing Chinese workers to do all the work but at the end of the day the Chinese do build up a lot of infrastructure, they do pay taxes (not all of which are stole), plus the Chinese do good will stuff like dig wells and pave roads to villages. Plus it does create local jobs and the exports do earn foreign exchange which helps banks doing business in the country. Could it be better? Sure, the work could be done by locals instead of Chinese (and it should be) but let's not pretend it isn't helping to develop the country.
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                    • #70
                      Foreign investments in africa is more or less investment in areas that easily can be called slave camps. It doesn't improve infrastructure.

                      If africa shall get anywhere, then projects such as microloans are way more effective.
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                      • #71
                        You have to ship the stuff over seas so the Chinese especially build roads, railroads, airports, and ports. That's real infrastructure.
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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by Oerdin View Post
                          You have to ship the stuff over seas so the Chinese especially build roads, railroads, airports, and ports. That's real infrastructure.

                          No, that is immensly stupid - thy already have such when it comes to harbors and airports.
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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by BlackCat View Post
                            No, that is immensly stupid - thy already have such when it comes to harbors and airports.
                            Why do you assume this?


                            Also, the Chinese have begun health initiatives in the regions they are working in.
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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by DaShi View Post
                              Why do you assume this?
                              Because they have it. Pobably not western standard, but it's the obvious and most profitable.
                              Also, the Chinese have begun health initiatives in the regions they are working in.
                              Healthy slaves works better
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                              • #75
                                I guess Blackcat thinks anyone with a job is a slave and it is much better for them to be unemployed.
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