Yeah, right (Tiger Woods thread)

[SlowwHand]

Did slowwy just call striking a tree and remaining at the scene "hit and run"?

I might just click on his post to see that.

Yes, hitting a tree and a fire hydrant and leaving, is hit and run.
You might make better sense if you knew WTF you were talking about, Elmo.

[KrazyHorse]

at leaving the scene of an accident. Perhaps you can charge the ambulance driver as an accessory you ****ing ****. And reckless driving involves something more than the simple fact of an accident. Are there witnesses who claim he peeled out at a hundred miles an hour or something? If not, then the only liability here is civil.

[KrazyHorse]

at Short Bus still claiming "hit and run" when TIGER WAS FOUND LYING NEXT TO HIS ****ING CAR.

****.

[KrazyHorse]

Come on, Short Bus. Where'd you go?

[flash9286]

It has nothing to do with Florida's laws and everything to do with the 5th Amendment...

To be fair, there is a Florida law that only requires Tiger give his license, registration and insurance.

[KrazyHorse]

I have no idea what else you think the law could require without it falling afoul of the 4th and 5th amendments.

A breath/blood test for alcohol and controlled substances along with a search of the vehicle and his person is all I can think of (and these would only be allowed because of the strange circumstances of the accident).

State law cannot require him to give a statement, unless he's given immunity from prosecution.

[Timexwatch]

Yes, hitting a tree and a fire hydrant and leaving, is hit and run.
You might make better sense if you knew WTF you were talking about, Elmo.

I have no idea what else you think the law could require without it falling afoul of the 4th and 5th amendments.

A breath/blood test for alcohol and controlled substances along with a search of the vehicle and his person is all I can think of (and these would only be allowed because of the strange circumstances of the accident).

State law cannot require him to give a statement, unless he's given immunity from prosecution.

Your Jurisdiction's Laws May Vary (YJLMV), but usually in the event of an accident:

A) You don't have to say anything to an officer but if you don't your ass might get slapped with as many tickets as possible.
B) Many jurisdictions have "Implied Consent" laws which state that if you are driving there that you automatically consent to a blood/breath test unless you state otherwise. Refusal usually has you ending up in an administrative hearing that'll get your license yanked for a certain amount of time.
C) A plain view/wingspan search would be justified along with an inventory search of the vehicle if it's towed and placed in police custody.
D) Reckless Driving usually involves multiple violations over a short period of time, either observed by the officer or supported by PC. Good luck getting that in this case.
E) Having Fire/EMS respond to the scene and cart you off does not constitute hit and run unless you refuse treatment and then walk off before cops respond.


As always, IANAL and my opinions do not necessarily reflect the positions of my employer

[KrazyHorse]

In other words:

1) Tiger being allowed to give a statement or not at his own convenience is exactly what would be allowed for anybody smart enough not to start yammering to the cops

2) Hit and run is not even close to a valid charge in this case

3) Even reckless driving is going to be tough to prove

Or, even more concisely: Short Bus is wrong.

[Timexwatch]

In other words:

1) Tiger being allowed to give a statement or not at his own convenience is exactly what would be allowed for anybody smart enough not to start yammering to the cops

Yep, at least at the scene. Tiger is still an ******* for jerking the Florida troopers around, but well within his rights legally. Of course, if he hadn't gotten hurt and stuck around, the cops would have been within their rights to detain him for a reasonable amount of time necessary to conduct a preliminary investigation.

2) Hit and run is not even close to a valid charge in this case

Unless he bailed out and ran like some hoodrat car thief, then probably not. Considering the CBC story said, "Windermere police Chief Daniel Saylor told The Associated Press that officers found the PGA star lying in the street with his wife, Elin, hovering over him.", it's pretty conclusive that he didn't run anywhere.

3) Even reckless driving is going to be tough to prove

Yep unless there's video or good witnesses. Even then it'd be tough to sustain. There'd have to be proof that he was the one operating the vehicle.

Or, even more concisely: Short Bus is wrong.

Yep, pretty much. But then again, what do I know? I'm just a city cop.

[Wiglaf]

Krazyhorse should not pretend to know anything about the law, he has a degree in physics and is pretending he can be an expert at more than one thing. It is sad he cannot admit liberal arts grads know more about the law than he does.

[KrazyHorse]

I am an expert at everything, Wiggy. Especially plowing your girlfriends.

[self biased]

Krazyhorse should not pretend to know anything about the law, he has a degree in physics and is pretending he can be an expert at more than one thing. It is sad he cannot admit liberal arts grads know more about the law than he does.

yes, but i've never seen krazyhorse misspell indict.

[self biased]

I can just say that I am not really good at sports but I regularly tell the police to kiss my ass when they want to question me, largely because I have a great lawyer who is violently libertarian and Jewish who has told me that such language is protected by the first amendment, even if directed at police. The fifth amendment apparently does not prevent you from being indighted, but then again not much can. Losing sleep over that is silly since a conviction is all that counts (an indictktment is more like a warning saying a conviction may or may not happen, but many other things need to happen first ).

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[SlowwHand]

I have no idea what else you think the law could require without it falling afoul of the 4th and 5th amendments.

A breath/blood test for alcohol and controlled substances along with a search of the vehicle and his person is all I can think of (and these would only be allowed because of the strange circumstances of the accident).

State law cannot require him to give a statement, unless he's given immunity from prosecution.

And those things weren't made available because he's a famous golfer who just said...screw you; and to the shame of the authorities, they bent over, you ****ing moron.

[Berzerker]

thats true, if I was parked up against a tree at 2:30 am with a hydrant as a hood ornament the cop would either check me for booze or have me checked at the hospital. I'd think thats sop for motorists taken in for cuts and bruises in one car accidents late at night