Is this article evil or not?

[Ben Kenobi]

We're not an ad firm. We're a market research firm. We do a lot of work for health care service groups and drug companies. And the numbers I looked at were based on the raw data not on what was finally published/used so I can honestly say that there was no bias at that point.

Ahh ok. Interesting.

As for the numbers, I'd say that SF generally tends to be one of the more liberal environs, and thus more likely to have things like abortion clinics. They will 'hit above their weight' so to speak.

[Ben Kenobi]

The Guttmacher Institute's survey found abortion occurs at roughly equal rates in regions where it is legal and regions where it is highly restricted.

This is the contention I'm addressing. There is absolutely nothing to indicate based on the US (where we have the best data), that this is anywhere close to true. Liberalisation of abortion laws leads to a big increase in abortion rates.

[rah]

I was just addressing the earlier year numbers you posted, which I think we can all now agree are mostly crap. I really wasn't interested in anything else.

But I will still go along with the almost 1 mil now based on everything that's been presented here.

[Ben Kenobi]

But I will still go along with the almost 1 mil now based on everything that's been presented here.

Even though it makes abortion 150 percent of maternal mortality?

[rah]

NO based on all the studies that I've seen on-line but more importantly the raw data that I was privy to on certain studies our company did. If these numbers don't correlate with your other numbers, i'd be more likely to question those numbers. But since I have no knowledge of them, I'm not in a position too, and I really don't care.

[Ben Kenobi]

Well the fellow who did the study here has all his links. Plenty of sources right there.

[MRT144]

Well the fellow who did the study here has all his links. Plenty of sources right there.

7 total in 1950.

[rah]

As I said, I'm not interested. I just wanted to refute the numbers you posted for the early years because they were so ridiculous.

[MRT144]

Even if it was as low as you estimate of 1500 that's 15 time higher than the number reported in your table. More proof that those early numbers are not reliable.

I like how he stereotyped NYC as being a den of abortion.

[MRT144]

As I said, I'm not interested. I just wanted to refute the numbers you posted for the early years because they were so ridiculous.

All 7 of those abortions took place in NYC.

[rah]

I've learned to stay focused when dealing with Ben since he like to slide around so much. I was only interested in one aspect and refuse to be sucked back into benverse.

[duke o' york]

Hell, I had 10 abortions in 1950, and I travelled to San Antonio to have them all, not to mention those I had in Canadia.

[Ben Kenobi]

I like how he stereotyped NYC as being a den of abortion.

Considering the events of '67 I think that impression is warranted.

Again, you are welcome to look up his links and sources.

[Wezil]

I've learned to stay focused when dealing with Ben since he like to slide around so much. I was only interested in one aspect and refuse to be sucked back into benverse.

I like how he disregarded your source but likes to rely on the source claiming 7 total.

He is awesome.

[MRT144]

Considering the events of '67 I think that impression is warranted.

Again, you are welcome to look up his links and sources.

The thousands of illegitimate children of Carl Yastremzki were aborted when he failed to bring how the series to the arch rival of NYC Boston Redsox?

**** you and your ridiculous "look at his sources" ****.