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    Bans 'do not cut abortion rate'

    Restricting the availability of legal abortion does not appear to reduce the number of women trying to end unwanted pregnancies, a major report suggests.

    The Guttmacher Institute's survey found abortion occurs at roughly equal rates in regions where it is legal and regions where it is highly restricted.

    It did note that improved access to contraception had cut the overall abortion rate over the last decade.

    But unsafe abortions, primarily illegal, have remained almost static.

    The survey of 197 countries carried out by the Guttmacher Institute - a pro-choice reproductive think tank - found there were 41.6m abortions in 2003, compared with 45.5 in 1995 - a drop which occurred despite population increases.

    Nineteen countries had liberalised their abortion laws over the 10 years studied, compared with tighter restrictions in just three.

    But despite the general trend towards liberalisation, some 40% of the world's women live amid tight restrictions.

    Graph showing global abortion rates

    On some continents this is particularly pronounced: well over 90% of women in South America and Africa live in areas with strict abortion laws, proportions which have barely shifted in a decade.

    Researchers also noted that while liberalisation was a key element in improving women's access to safer terminations, it was far from the only factor.

    Even in countries where abortion is legal, lack of availability and cost may prove major obstacles. In India for example, where terminations are legally allowed for a variety of reasons, some 6m take place outside the health service.

    The costs of unsafe abortions, which can include inserting pouches containing arsenic to back street surgery, can be high: the healthcare bill to deal with conditions from sepsis to organ failure can be four times what it costs to provide family planning services.


    COUNTRIES WHERE ABORTION HAS BEEN RESTRICTED
    1997: Poland re-instated law outlawing abortion except when mother's life at risk or she had been raped
    1998: El Salvador outlaws all abortions even when mother's life at risk
    2006: Nicaragua similarly eliminates all grounds for legal abortion

    Every year, an estimated 70,000 women die as a result of unsafe abortions - leaving nearly a quarter of a million children without a mother - and 5m develop complications.

    In the developed world, legal restrictions did not stop abortion but just meant it was "exported", with Irish women for instance simply travelling to other parts of Europe, according to Guttmacher's director, Dr Sharon Camp. In the developing world, it meant lives were put at risk.

    "Too many women are maimed or killed each year because they lack legal abortion access," she said.

    "The gains we've seen are modest in relation to what we can achieve. Investing in family planning is essential - far too many women lack access to contraception, putting them at risk."

    Double Dutch

    Western Europe is held up as an example of what access to contraceptive services can achieve, and the Netherlands - with just 10 abortions per 1,000 women compared to the world's 29 per 1,000 - is held up as the gold standard.


    Ensuring women have the means to end their pregnancies is not liberating them
    Josephine Quintavalle
    Comment on Reproductive Ethics

    Here, young people report using two forms of contraception as standard.

    Even the UK, which has a relatively high rate, fares well in comparison to the US, where the number of abortions is among the highest in the developed world. The institute says this rate is in part explained by inconsistencies in insurance coverage of contraceptive supplies.

    In much of eastern Europe, where abortion was treated as a form of birth control, abortion rates have dropped by 50% in the past decade as contraceptives have become more widely available.

    And globally, the number of married women of childbearing age with access to contraception has increased from 54% in 1990 to 63% in 2003, with gains also seen among single, sexually active women.

    But there were still significant unmet contraception needs, and a lack of interest among pharmaceutical companies in developing new forms of birth control that provide top protection on demand, the institute said.

    Josephine Quintavalle of the anti-abortion Comment on Reproductive Ethics said stopping women falling pregnant in the first place was an area where minds could meet.

    "Abortion - back street or front street - is not the answer. Ensuring women have the means to end their pregnancies is not liberating them - they should be able to make real choices before they fall pregnant in the first place," she said.

    "But that shouldn't necessarily mean taking pills every day. There will always be problems with access and cost, particularly in countries where people struggle just to buy food.

    "What we need is to better understand our fertility - if there are just 24 fertile hours in a month, we need to work out a cheap, effective way for women to know when they can fall pregnant. That would be freedom, and that's what we should aim for."
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  • #2
    Yes, because it cites a Guttmacher Institute survey. As we all know, Guttmacher is pro-death and has an agenda and I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that the organization's leader actually eats fetuses for breakfast.
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    • #3
      Ahh. But good to know. I always assumed people disagreeing with me were all wrong
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      • #4
        Do they have data for countries who have cultures that are OK with abortion? I am thinking Korea?

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Lorizael View Post
          Yes, because it cites a Guttmacher Institute survey. As we all know, Guttmacher is pro-death and has an agenda and I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that the organization's leader actually eats fetuses for breakfast.
          Ding, ding, ding, ding! We have a winner for dumbest statement of the year!

          A scientific study proves that making abortions illegal doesn't reduce their numbers. It just results in the deaths of 70,000 women a year.

          The most effective way of lowering the rate of abortions is access to contraception.

          So Lorizael embraces the criminalization of abortions, with 70,000 unnecessary deaths a year, and has the audacity to call the people who did the story pro-death.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Zkribbler View Post
            Ding, ding, ding, ding! We have a winner for dumbest statement of the year!

            A scientific study proves that making abortions illegal doesn't reduce their numbers. It just results in the deaths of 70,000 women a year.

            The most effective way of lowering the rate of abortions is access to contraception.

            So Lorizael embraces the criminalization of abortions, with 70,000 unnecessary deaths a year, and has the audacity to call the people who did the story pro-death.
            5-star post, unless you're joking, in which case it's a mere 2-star post.
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            • #7
              Zkribbler, the man is agreeing with you...

              I'm the one you need to rebut.

              Yes, because it cites a Guttmacher Institute survey. As we all know, Guttmacher is pro-death and has an agenda and I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that the organization's leader actually eats fetuses for breakfast.
              The question you need to ask, is whether an instituition with intimate ties to the abortion industry has any motivation to accurately report the number of illegal abortions every year.

              The Guttmacher Institute's survey found abortion occurs at roughly equal rates in regions where it is legal and regions where it is highly restricted.
              False.



              These are numbers from the US, in a study not conducted by Planned Parenthood, or AGI, which is an arm of Planned Parenthood.

              Code:
              year////abortions
              1926	2
              1927	2
              1928	2
              1929	2
              1930	2
              1931	48
              1932	71
              1933	71
              1934	71
              1935	89
              1936	86
              1937	86
              1938	86
              1939	86
              1940	71
              1941	49
              1942	58
              
              1943	697
              1944	706
              1945	704
              1946	819
              1947	749
              1948	16
              1949	675
              1950	7
              1951	679
              1952	551
              1953	490
              1954	440
              1955	328
              1956	337
              1957	336
              1958	345
              1959	357
              1960	292
              1961	292
              1962	292
              1963	390
              
              1964	823
              1965	794
              1966	1028
              1967	2061
              1968	6211
              
              1969	27512
              1970	193491
              1971	485816
              1972	586760
              1973	615831
              1974	780824
              1975	865404
              1976	991555
              
              1977	1079978
              1978	1158185
              1979	1252756
              1980	1297610
              1981	1300760
              1982	1303980
              1983	1268987
              1984	1333521
              1985	1328570
              1986	1328113
              1987	1354951
              1988	1372725
              1989	1398225
              1990	1431584
              1991	1390657
              1992	1361272
              1993	1330614
              1994	1268166
              1995	1211119
              1996	1365700
              1997	1186229
              1998	996372
              1999	949145
              2000	938972
              2001	941402
              2002	948712
              2003	946137
              2004	936542
              2005	921910
              As you can see the pre-legalisation rate was about 800 illegal abortions a year in America. Of 3 million or so live births, we can estimate a rate of around 1/3750 pregnancies ended in abortion. Given a worldwide birthrate of 130 million a year, this would mean that the abortion rate would be around 35 thousand illegal abortions, instead of the 45 million or so nonsense reported by AGI.

              Every year, an estimated 70,000 women die as a result of unsafe abortions - leaving nearly a quarter of a million children without a mother - and 5m develop complications.year.
              Ok, out of 45 million abortions, 70k result in the death of the mother. This means that 1/570 abortions results in the death of the mother.

              Extrapolating this death rate to the true illegal abortion rate in the US, we would expect to see at least one, and maybe two maternal deaths every year due to illegal abortion in the US.

              Now if we were to accept the rationale of AGI that there were a million abortions every year in the US prior to 1970, that would mean we should expect to see the death of 1750 women every year due to abortion.

              Maternal mortality in the US was 5.0/10,000 in 1950, and halved by 1975. Given 3 million live births, this means the following:

              There were 1500 deaths of pregnant woman or women giving birth in 1950, declining to about 850 a year in the US by 1975. If we assume that the mortality rate was correct, more women died of abortions than total maternal mortality in all of America. Clearly both assumptions are bogus. The rate is triple, and the total abortions are over a thousand fold higher then they truly are.
              Last edited by Ben Kenobi; October 14, 2009, 12:09.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Zkribbler View Post
                Ding, ding, ding, ding! We have a winner for dumbest statement of the year!

                A scientific study proves that making abortions illegal doesn't reduce their numbers. It just results in the deaths of 70,000 women a year.

                The most effective way of lowering the rate of abortions is access to contraception.

                So Lorizael embraces the criminalization of abortions, with 70,000 unnecessary deaths a year, and has the audacity to call the people who did the story pro-death.
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                • #9
                  Zkib is getting crotchety in his old age
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                  • #10
                    As you can see the pre-legalisation rate was about 800 illegal abortions a year in America
                    Somehow I really doubt the accuracy of that stat. I can just see doctors filling out the survey, yeah I did 50 illegal abortions last year. And around that time it was common for women to leave the country to get abortions. Anyone that thinks there were only 7 abortions in the entire US in 1953 is an idiot.
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                    • #11
                      Bebro, you didn't add any commentary of your own in the OP.
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                      • #12
                        I was going to mention that but after all the damn abuse I took yesterday, and your coupon, I decided against it.
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                        • #13
                          And around that time it was common for women to leave the country to get abortions.
                          False again.

                          If you actually checked the source, it wasn't common for women to go abroad until the 60s. Might have something to do with airfare, no? Even then, it was easier for them to find someone in the US.

                          Anyone that thinks there were only 7 abortions in the entire US in 1953 is an idiot.
                          Which is why I'm being generous and going with 800 a year after '42. There's a consistant jump after '42, and again, after 63.

                          There is absolutely nothing to indicate a million abortions a year, which is what AGI is claiming.
                          Last edited by Ben Kenobi; October 14, 2009, 12:11.
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                          • #14
                            Some might claim those jumps due to returning soldiers.
                            I still think 800 a year is a crap number.
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                            • #15
                              Would be reasonable to me.

                              I still think 800 a year is a crap number.
                              Why? Do you think 1 million a year is reasonable? People were different back then.
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