Let's talk ethics: Newspaper misreports charges, suspect kills self, newspaper slanders suspect

[Qilue]

You're life isn't destroyed if you're accused of crimes. I've been indicted between five and six times and things are going great. As far as I can tell that's all that happened to this guy. No big deal..unless you actually did it, which he did.

Assuming your premise (he's innocent) is correct...

He'd rather die than be exonerated at trial?

While this is true for crimes like murder, grand theft auto, armed robbery, fraud, kidnapping etc. However with sex crimes involving children, the "community" tends to develop a lynch mob mentality. An accusation is almost always proof of guilt for the mob no matter what the eventual outcome.

So yes, his career was over, his reputation destroyed and any kind of trial would have been irrelevant since the trial by media/lynch mob had already found him guilty.

[Wezil]

So now the mob can presume his guilt for eternity.

[The Mad Monk]

If I'm in a heated argument and someone tells me to suck his dick, does that count as an invitation to sexual touching?

[loinburger]

I'd suggest telling them to choke on a dick instead, as it doesn't specify that it's your dick being choked on.

[Ben Kenobi]

He'd rather die than be exonerated at trial?

When a national circulation newspaper is saying that you are a convicted kiddly fiddler, he may have lost hope that he would be exonerated in the courts.

[Wiglaf]

Michael Jackson was acquitted you ******. I am so sick of people like you hiding behind religion and then excusing some loser for not ponying up for a good lawyer. In this case, he got what he paid for.

[Wezil]

When a national circulation newspaper is saying that you are a convicted kiddly fiddler, he may have lost hope that he would be exonerated in the courts.

Cite please.

I think you are full of **** (again).

The article in the OP starts:

"David Dewees died an innocent man."

[Ben Kenobi]

But was it guilt of another kind, shame and self-loathing, that made the 32-year-old lie down on the tracks at High Park subway station Saturday morning rather than face trial?

This was the whole point of asher's post. The Star convicted him of kiddy fiddling. If I were to read this trash, I can totally see why I'd just give up.

[loinburger]

IIRC they said that he was accused of kiddy-fiddling, when in fact he was accused of attempted kiddy-fiddling. Not quite the same thing as saying he was convicted - one warrants a retraction, the other gets you sued for libel.

[Wezil]

"When a national circulation newspaper is saying that you are a convicted kiddly fiddler...

Cite or admit you were lying (again).

[Wezil]

Still waiting Ben.

The quote you provided does not say what you claimed it did. Additionally it was published after the guy's death so it certainly can't be the cause of his suicide.

Provide your cite please.

[Wezil]

That wouldn't surprise me (honestly, every Christian camp counselor creeps me the **** out). I there an online version of this, though?

The podcast is online now.

Large file - The interview in question starts just past the 45 minute mark.

Oct 6 podcast - http://www.mediafire.com/billcarroll



Ben - Still waiting for your cite.

[Ben Kenobi]

Provide your cite please.

Sigh, that whole piece was a load of trash... Are you seriously defending their conduct? I'd be ashamed to call myself a reporter!

[Wezil]

Ben,

You have 3 choices.

a) Provide the cite of the report before his death that claimed he was a convicted offender

b) Admit you were wrong

c) Have me continue to hound you until you comply with either a) or b)

[Lorizael]

Ben,

You have 3 choices.

a) Provide the cite of the report before his death that claimed he was a convicted offender

b) Admit you were wrong

c) Have me continue to hound you until you comply with either a) or b)

There will be no option c. If he doesn't feel like continuing the conversation, you're going to have to let it go.