Poverty in America

[DaShi]

Alright, let's narrow it down a bit more. How about:

Abortion:
Taxes:
Univeral Health care:
Dickgirls:
Iraq War:
Afghan War:

[DaShi]

Now compare that list with an avowed right winger like me:

Torture: Against (Slowwy), Against (Ben).
Prayer in School: Against (Slowwy), For (Ben)
Death Penalty: For (Slowwy), Against (Ben)
Obama: Even (Slowwy) Against (Ben)
Illegal Immigration: Against. (Slowwy) Against (Ben)

Slowwy scores 0.5 to my left. My goodness, he's a total left winger.

Ben, you've argued for torture before.

[Ben Kenobi]

Ben, you've argued for torture before.

So has slowwy. From what I can see our positions are the same. I think the Geneva convention should be followed WRT to enemy combatants and that means no torture. I believe that irregulars who don't follow the requirements as enemy combatants no longer have the Geneva convention applying to them.

[DaShi]

So you support torture and throw Sloww under the boat as well.

[Ben Kenobi]

Abortion: Teh devil
Taxes: Teh devil
Univeral Health care: Teh devil
Iraq War: War is bad, mmmkay
Afghan War: War is bad, mmmkay.

That again puts me slightly on the right.

[Ben Kenobi]

So you support torture and throw Sloww under the boat as well.

Actually, I think he's a true moderate.

The only reason he and I look like fascist right wingers is because most folks here are left of Stalin.

[DaShi]

The Crusaders were bad? What about the Jewish siege of Israel?

[loinburger]

So has slowwy. From what I can see our positions are the same. I think the Geneva convention should be followed WRT to enemy combatants and that means no torture. I believe that irregulars who don't follow the requirements as enemy combatants no longer have the Geneva convention applying to them.

How does this possibly count as "opposed to torture"? That's like saying "I believe that innocent people shouldn't be executed, so I'm opposed to the death penalty. I'm fine with criminals being executed, though."

[Patroklos]

How is the death penalty or illegal immigration a right or left issue?

[Imran Siddiqui]

Would you consider someone who said they were anti-death penalty and pro-open borders to be a right winger?

[rah]

It's all silly.
I'm pro-choice
against the DP
and support gay unions
but some consider me a right wing wacko.

Go figure. It just means that all those labels are meaningless, unless we're talking about ben of course.

[MOBIUS]

So you support torture and throw Sloww under the boat as well.

Is that a swift boat?

For the record, if you are left wing, you are against prayer in schools. So Sloww is right wing on that count as well. And yes, I'm virtually certain he used to be pro torture as well.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Well, a moment of silence is distinct from prayer in schools.

[loinburger]

Yeah, I would expect a lot of fundies to be upset with a moment of silence, because people might be praying to the wrong gods during that time (e.g. the Muslim god, the Catholic god, etc.).

[Imran Siddiqui]

I want to do the Dashi poll too

Torture: Against
Prayer in School: Against (even a moment of silence)
Death Penalty: For
Obama: Against, but not in a wackjob birther way
Illegal Immigration: For (I guess that's the best way to put it)

Abortion: For (pro-choice)
Taxes: Some For, some Against
Univeral Health care: For
Dickgirls: Depends
Iraq War: For, but carried out in a different way
Afghan War: For, but carried out in a different way