Christian Bigots Attack Elephant at Secular Institution

[DinoDoc]

There are very few problems which can't be solved with more dickgirls.

I thought it was the proper application of high explosives.

[The Mad Monk]

[Q=Asher;5682032]It's a stylized elephant, donated to the zoo, put in front of an elephant exhibit. [/Q] OK, how about this: tell me next time you see an elephant with human hands and feet.

You mean, like when there's an editorial cartoon about the GOP?

[The Mad Monk]

I don't, I think it's a public area and completely inoffensive so it should be permitted. It's called the common sense approach.

I find it funny that a lot of the posters here who supported putting the ten commandments in public courts are up in arms over an elephant with hands outside a zoo exhibit. It's even missing two arms to actually be an idol of Ganesh.

Christians can be such hypocritical whiners. You guys lose all perspective of reality and fairness. It's okay for bishops to accost people outside the biggest transit terminus in the city and hand out recruiting literature, it's okay for Christians to send missionaries around the world to indoctrinate people who are desperate, it's okay for the people to stand on the streets downtown and PREACH THE GOSPEL to the public, but the second someone puts a statue of an elephant at the zoo, a line has been crossed?

If you would like to take the position that the far more egregious displays of religion in public spaces (as mentioned above) are bad, then I suppose you would either be lying, or be consistent. FWIW my PUBLIC school in Calgary did have a manger scene on its grounds 'round Christmas.

I think Christians would be more tolerant about this sort of thing if people would stop launching lawsuits at townhall nativity scenes.

[loinburger]

OK, how about this: tell me next time you see an elephant with human hands and feet.

I wasn't aware that art had to be 100% realistic. Better dig up Dali and Picasso et al and give them post-mortem crucifixions.

[Felch]

The people who are against this elephant are uptight *******s. They should be dispersed with tear gas and rubber buckshot.

[-Jrabbit]

"Ooh, Mommy, look, a giraffe!"

"Ooh, Daddy, look, an elephant!"

"BTW, Daddy, I've suddenly become indoctrinated. Can I turn Hindu?"

[Asher]

I think Christians would be more tolerant about this sort of thing if people would stop launching lawsuits at townhall nativity scenes.

You act like that kind of **** happens in Canada; it doesn't.

[Ben Kenobi]

Yeah, in Canada, you just get hauled before a HRC and charged with a hate crime.

Didn't we go through this already Asher. Crosses bad, Elephant gods good? Get with the story.

[Asher]

Yeah, in Canada, you just get hauled before a HRC and charged with a hate crime.

Yes, Ben, Canada puts people who make nativity scenes infront of the HRC.

Doesn't God hate liars, or something? Why do you want to anger him?

[Ben Kenobi]

I find it funny that a lot of the posters here who supported putting the ten commandments in public courts are up in arms over an elephant with hands outside a zoo exhibit. It's even missing two arms to actually be an idol of Ganesh.

I find it so funny that the atheist who *****es and moans about Christianity is capable of making such fine distinctions. I'm impressed that you have the capability, and you should be able to make the distinction wrt to Christianity.

Christians can be such hypocritical whiners. You guys lose all perspective of reality and fairness. It's okay for bishops to accost people outside the biggest transit terminus in the city and hand out recruiting literature,

Once again, a whine. My god man, how can you live with yourself, being accosted by those benighted Christians. They should be executed on the spot!

it's okay for Christians to send missionaries around the world to indoctrinate people who are desperate, it's okay for the people to stand on the streets downtown and PREACH THE GOSPEL to the public, but the second someone puts a statue of an elephant at the zoo, a line has been crossed?

Is the zoo publicly funded? Yes, no. If yes, then why is the elephant there and not an ark. If no, they can put whatever the hell they want.

If you would like to take the position that the far more egregious displays of religion in public spaces (as mentioned above) are bad, then I suppose you would either be lying, or be consistent. FWIW my PUBLIC school in Calgary did have a manger scene on its grounds 'round Christmas.

Actually, we believe in the free expression of religion, and it's awesome to see that you don't support free expression of religion. Man, that Inquisition really had it going down.

[Ben Kenobi]

Yes, Ben, Canada puts people who make nativity scenes infront of the HRC.

It did that to Boissoin, who quoted the bible.

Doesn't God hate liars, or something? Why do you want to anger him?

I don't know why you think Canada's **** doesn't stink. Canada has an atrocious record wrt to the provision of religious rights.

I'm going to quote that part about the bishop. It's a glorious quote.

[Asher]

I find it so funny that the atheist who *****es and moans about Christianity is capable of making such fine distinctions. I'm impressed that you have the capability, and you should be able to make the distinction wrt to Christianity.

Once again, a whine. My god man, how can you live with yourself, being accosted by those benighted Christians. They should be executed on the spot!

Stop the presses, folks, Ben is issuing yet another strawman.

I've not at all claimed these Christians should not be able to do what they do. I've never even implied it. I'm just stating the case that they DO do this, which makes them complete hypocrites for protesting something as simple as this statue. It's ridiculous.

I think you owe me an apology here for once again offensively misrepresenting my arguments. You truly do.

Is the zoo publicly funded? Yes, no. If yes, then why is the elephant there and not an ark. If no, they can put whatever the hell they want.

It is publicly funded, but the statue was not. The statue was donated by a non-Hindu in honour of her late father, who spent much of his life travelling throughout Asia. The statue was actually stripped of any religious symbols before being displayed and its intent is to show the connection between man and animal, it was intended and is quite obviously a cultural piece and not one of religious indoctrination.

Actually, we believe in the free expression of religion

If you guys did believe that, you wouldn't be protesting this.

and it's awesome to see that you don't support free expression of religion. Man, that Inquisition really had it going down.

What the flying ****? Seriously dude. Here I am defending the presence of a statue that some deem to be a religious idol in a public place, and here you are whining about its presence. Then you claim I'm the one not supporting free expression of religion while you are?

Christianity isn't the only religion, Ben. Wake the **** up.

[Asher]

It did that to Boissoin, who quoted the bible.

Boissoin was not put infront of the HRC for quoting the bible or building a nativity scene.

Boissoin was put infront of the HRC for hate speech because he was promoting texts he wrote filled with hateful propaganda to ostracize and condemn a minority. Within weeks of his letters, one of his followers assaulted a gay teen in the town he published the letters in.

Preaching the bible and building nativity scenes are not against the law in Canada. Writing speech whose entire purpose is to incite hate against a demographic in our country is.

Here is the letter that the HRC, quite rightfully, classified as hate speech:

http://www.xtra.ca/public/viewstory.aspx?STORY_ID=4014&PUB_TEMPLATE_ID=1

Homosexual Agenda Wicked

Stephen Boissoin

The following is not intended for those who are suffering from an unwanted sexual identity crisis. For you, I have understanding, care, compassion and tolerance. I sympathize with you and offer you my love and fellowship. I prayerfully beseech you to seek help, and I assure you that your present enslavement to homosexuality can be remedied. Many outspoken, former homosexuals are free today.

Instead, this is aimed precisely at every individual that in any way supports the homosexual machine that has been mercilessly gaining ground in our society since the 1960s. I cannot pity you any longer and remain inactive. You have caused far too much damage.

My banner has now been raised and war has been declared so as to defend the precious sanctity of our innocent children and youth, that you so eagerly toil, day and night, to consume. With me stand the greatest weapons that you have encountered to date - God and the "Moral Majority." Know this, we will defeat you, then heal the damage that you have caused. Modern society has become dispassionate to the cause of righteousness. Many people are so apathetic and desensitized today that they cannot even accurately define the term "morality."

The masses have dug in and continue to excuse their failure to stand against horrendous atrocities such as the aggressive propagation of homo- and bisexuality. Inexcusable justifications such as, "I'm just not sure where the truth lies," or "If they don't affect me then I don't care what they do," abound from the lips of the quantifiable majority.

Face the facts, it is affecting you. Like it or not, every professing heterosexual is have their future aggressively chopped at the roots.

Edmund Burke's observation that, "All that is required for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing," has been confirmed time and time again. From kindergarten class on, our children, your grandchildren are being strategically targeted, psychologically abused and brainwashed by homosexual and pro-homosexual educators.

Our children are being victimized by repugnant and premeditated strategies, aimed at desensitizing and eventually recruiting our young into their camps. Think about it, children as young as five and six years of age are being subjected to psychologically and physiologically damaging pro-homosexual literature and guidance in the public school system; all under the fraudulent guise of equal rights.

Your children are being warped into believing that same-sex families are acceptable; that men kissing men is appropriate.

Your teenagers are being instructed on how to perform so-called safe same gender oral and anal sex and at the same time being told that it is normal, natural and even productive. Will your child be the next victim that tests homosexuality positive?

Come on people, wake up! It's time to stand together and take whatever steps are necessary to reverse the wickedness that our lethargy has authorized to spawn. Where homosexuality flourishes, all manner of wickedness abounds.

Regardless of what you hear, the militant homosexual agenda isn't rooted in protecting homosexuals from "gay bashing." The agenda is clearly about homosexual activists that include, teachers, politicians, lawyers, Supreme Court judges, and God forbid, even so-called ministers, who are all determined to gain complete equality in our nation and even worse, our world.

Don't allow yourself to be deceived any longer. These activists are not morally upright citizens, concerned about the best interests of our society. They are perverse, self-centered and morally deprived individuals who are spreading their psychological disease into every area of our lives. Homosexual rights activists and those that defend them, are just as immoral as the pedophiles, drug dealers and pimps that plague our communities.

The homosexual agenda is not gaining ground because it is morally backed. It is gaining ground simply because you, Mr. and Mrs. Heterosexual, do nothing to stop it. It is only a matter of time before some of these morally bankrupt individuals such as those involved with NAMBLA, the North American Man/Boy Lovers Association, will achieve their goal to have sexual relations with children and assert that it is a matter of free choice and claim that we are intolerant bigots not to accept it.

If you are reading this and think that this is alarmist, then I simply ask you this: how bad do things have to become before you will get involved? It's time to start taking back what the enemy has taken from you. The safety and future of our children is at stake.

Rev Stephen Boissoin
Boissoin's letter originally appeared in the Jun 17, 2002 issue of the Red Deer Advocate.

Tell me all he was doing was preaching the bible.

Stop lying, Ben. You need help.

He doesn't even mention the bible once, or quote it.

You are morally bankrupt and have no place at this site.

[Wezil]

Ben has a lifetime Poly membership. He isn't going anywhere.

[notyoueither]

I'm getting the impression that people are confusing Canada and the US.

I'm not sure about the US, but there is prayer in Canadian legislatures. There are Christmas displays (yes, including the nativity) in our public squares and places. We have entire school systems funded by the public and dedicated to Catholic education.

We don't have seperation of Church and State. In fact, our ultimate head of state is the titular head of a Christian denomination. What we do have is a multi-cultural society, and some of the other cultures are finding their places in the sun. This upsets some narrow-minded religious reactionaries who feel that their one Dog is better than all the other mutts out there, and they are offended that they may be reminded that there are assorted people of different beliefs living in our midsts.

Don't cry for these tools who seek to piggyback their screed on awareness of issues South of the border. Christians in Canada are in no danger of being gassed, thrown to lions, or otherwise cleansed from our society even if the wing-nuts from the other extreme may find that an attractive idea.