A Music Thread

[C0ckney]

i read albert's post and my first thought was dead prez. nice one avio.

Only now do you see things like a rapper with a concept song set in the Vietnam War....Or rapping about the obesity crisis....Or alien visitors...

albert, come on, you're saying that people weren't rapping about politics or random topics before? that's bogus man.

[Meticulous Man]

What about these guys? I don't listen that much to rap but I actually bought their first CD back when it came out in 2000.

[Al B. Sure!]

It's not about the fact that people rap about different things... it's about the fact that people rapping about different things are commercially popular that's new and unique. It was the same way back in the 80's as well but lost commercial significance for many years. True, the Roots and Common did fairly well but they were exceptions to what was generally popular.

And bland rubbish?! Rap is more creative now in terms of topics.

Only now do you see things like a rapper with a concept song set in the Vietnam War:




Or rapping about the obesity crisis:



Or alien visitors:



or the Media:

[C0ckney]

plants and animals - faerie dance



plants and animals - the mama papa (live)



plants and animals - game shows (live)

[ZEE]

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[C0ckney]

you and i 'got started' because you started talking ill informed rubbish about what i posted. i think however that the real problem is that we view music in a completely different way.

Secondly, you neglected how I explained why AAHZ music is crap (too much emphasis on bassy beats, no lyricism, a lot of talk of guns, killing, drugs, whores, and bling).

right ok, let me try to explain a couple of things. firstly, some people think that the quality of the beat, or even a part of the beat, is more important than the lyrics. aahz is clearly one of those people. you clearly swing the other way. once again your problem here stems from your inability to realise that others see things in a different way to you.

also, you seem to be implying in your posts that there are only two types of hip-hop, gangster rap and that bland, poppy rubbish you post. this, while no doubt making sense to you somehow, is untrue and it does the genre a great disservice. there's always been a great deal of variety in rap (although, granted, less than in other types of music). so when you say "rap's better now because people aren't talking about guns, gangsters and hoes" you are talking bollocks, because there have ALWAYS been some rappers who weren't talking about those things. your premiss is disingenuous and fatally flawed.

[Meticulous Man]

[Al B. Sure!]

albert, i can see why some people on this forum get very frustrated with you. to provide a very brief summary:

you - here's some great music, unlike what you post
others - that music is crap and here is why
you - nuh uh, you're all wrong and it's amazing *posts some more crap music*
*aahz goes mental

i might provide a more detailed explanation of why i think it's crap later, but to be honest, i really can't be arsed wasting any more time with you at the moment.

Umm... you're forgetting a few things... one, while I did start with AAHZ, I did not start with Thoth. He was the one who started calling my music crap before I said anything about his. I'm not sure about you and me, however.

Secondly, you neglected how I explained why AAHZ music is crap (too much emphasis on bassy beats, no lyricism, a lot of talk of guns, killing, drugs, whores, and bling). AAHZ really didn't say anything to criticize it except that he wants more talk about guns and drugs. I think normal humans would agree that rapping about average folk > rapping about selling drugs.

Wasn't that THE criticism against rap? Wasn't THAT what everybody in the Tipper Gore mentality has been getting up in arms over for the last 25 years?

[C0ckney]

was, not was - better than james brown



roni griffith - spys (b-side version)

[C0ckney]

something to chill to



scuba - glance



cobblestone jazz - chance dub

[C0ckney]

albert, i can see why some people on this forum get very frustrated with you. to provide a very brief summary:

you - here's some great music, unlike what you post
others - that music is crap and here is why
you - nuh uh, you're all wrong and it's amazing *posts some more crap music*
*aahz goes mental

i might provide a more detailed explanation of why i think it's crap later, but to be honest, i really can't be arsed wasting any more time with you at the moment.

[Meticulous Man]

[SlowwHand]

AAHZ, take a break.

[ZEE]

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[Al B. Sure!]

What the **** is going on? I am lost.