A Music Thread

[Al B. Sure!]

Because they can't write their own hooks or chorus. They write lyrics, sure, but seldom are they very intelligent or deep. And they just kind of mindlessly rap them to the beat.

It depends who you're considering. Anything AAHZ posts and the lyrics are downright retarded. That's one of the reasons why I was trumpeting the emergence of more versatile topics than guns, drugs, and women which is all AAHZ's rappers rap about.

And most rap hooks are rapped, not sung or sampled. It's only the mainstream singles that usually get this treatment for crossover appeal. It's kind of formulaic but it's how it goes... you want to show up on the Pop Charts, you need a sung hook.

[Asher]

They write lyrics for the rest of the song. How is that lazy? That's the other thing with AAHZ music, though. Since he cares nothing about lyrics, his Southern music becomes stale and uncreative.

Because they can't write their own hooks or chorus. They write lyrics, sure, but seldom are they very intelligent or deep. And they just kind of mindlessly rap them to the beat.

[Al B. Sure!]

**** you.

thoth comes in here and starts something with me and I defend myself and get called the bad guy.

I just don't appreciate how hip hop songs just sample other music for the hooks. It's lazy, not artistic.

They write lyrics for the rest of the song. How is that lazy? That's the other thing with AAHZ music, though. Since he cares nothing about lyrics, his Southern music becomes stale and uncreative.

[Asher]

I'm aware Girl with One Eye is a cover -- she was toured with the band (a punk band called V-something?) and that band never recorded the song, they only played it live. She sang in the song with them, but eventually worked it into her set list as well as a full-blown cover.

I'm fine with covers, especially those that change up the song substantially or add their own style/take on it (like The XX does). I just don't appreciate how hip hop songs just sample other music for the hooks. It's lazy, not artistic.

[C0ckney]

wow, another page of speer spamming it up with his bull****.

asher, there's nothing wrong with sampling. there is something brilliant and very creative in taking the work of someone else and taking it in a completely different direction. of course a lot of it is done badly, and in a boring and unoriginal way. see for example a lot of the stuff that albert posts, but anything can be done badly and it doesn't invalidate the work of people doing it well. avio posted a track by an australian band called the avalanches a couple of pages back, they did a whole album (called since i left you) which was pretty much all sampled. it was a work of genius, although there was no follow up, because the band made no money (due to sampling fees, not lack of sales).

by the way, florence and the machine - the girl with one eye is a cover, of some reasonably obscure UK punk band, i forget the name unfortunately. the xx have done some amazing covers, their version of womak and womak's teardrops far surpasses the original (i posted it in the last music thread).

and aahz, i was actually reasonably impressed by your last two selections, instrumental hip-hop have you ever heard of a genre called aquacrunk?

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[Thoth]

I am puzzled by your selection of Beethoven, Ode to Joy at that. I would've expected more Wagnerian tastes. Would've thought you would consider Beethoven boring.

Beethoven was one of the greatest composers who ever lived. He could capture an emotion and set it to music that would last for the ages.

[Al B. Sure!]

Sorry. I just can't help posting my 80's punk crap.

I am puzzled by your selection of Beethoven, Ode to Joy at that. I would've expected more Wagnerian tastes. Would've thought you would consider Beethoven boring.

[Thoth]

Anyway, before I was so rudely interrupted by haters...

Sorry. I just can't help posting my 80's punk crap.

[Al B. Sure!]

Anyway, before I was so rudely interrupted by haters...

Some Clarence Carter...

[Thoth]

White guys who don't know how to rap.

[Al B. Sure!]

Who the hell is Dame Dash?

It's blues-rock...I can see why a lot of black people like it.

Roc-a-Fella Records co-founder with Jay-Z.

[Asher]

Who the hell is Dame Dash?

It's blues-rock...I can see why a lot of black people like it.