[serious] Off Topic Moderation Input - Part 2

[Ming]

My side of the "debate" was that you posted a fake story, and that the real story was different.

You are the one making up stuff that wasn't even said or implied, just like you posted the fake story.

And those are facts!

[Kidlicious]

Think all you want... but when you present your opinions as FACTS, that's over the line.
I could just as easily claim that with all the hate you sprout against women, you must indeed be a women beater. That it's your actions and not your words... and say THAT'S HOW I SEE IT. No different that the BS you are trying to pull.

So... back up your lies with facts, or shut the **** up, or stop whining like a child when somebody does the same against you.

YOU CONTINUE TO PRESENT YOUR OPINION THAT I LIED BY POSTING A LIE AS FACT! I don't have time for this.

[Kidlicious]

Believing something despite the evidence to the contrary is just stupid. Ming never said or even suggested any of the things you are accusing him of. I've reviewed it very carefully. Go back and take a look and actually read what he said. What you are doing is absolutely making up some nonsense lie about and accusing him of it.

Anyway, I have had a conversation with Ming about his posts. I don't think his last few posts are ok either, but I accept that he has been severely provoked and only got to that stage after repeated attempts to reason with you and get you to stop posting your similarly baseless nonsense accusations had failed. In contrast your attacks on him were based on him, correctly, pointing out all the inaccuracies and flaws in your initial posts.

My accusation is based on the fact that he took up a particular side of a debate. If I took up the side of skinheads would you not think it obvious that I think racism is ok. This is ridiculous. You already have passed judgement on me.

[Ming]

Think all you want... but when you present your opinions as FACTS, that's over the line.
I could just as easily claim that with all the hate you sprout against women, you must indeed be a women beater. That it's your actions and not your words... and say THAT'S HOW I SEE IT. No different that the BS you are trying to pull.

So... back up your lies with facts, or shut the **** up, or stop whining like a child when somebody does the same against you.

[MikeH]

Believing something despite the evidence to the contrary is just stupid. Ming never said or even suggested any of the things you are accusing him of. I've reviewed it very carefully. Go back and take a look and actually read what he said. What you are doing is absolutely making up some nonsense lie about and accusing him of it.

Anyway, I have had a conversation with Ming about his posts. I don't think his last few posts are ok either, but I accept that he has been severely provoked and only got to that stage after repeated attempts to reason with you and get you to stop posting your similarly baseless nonsense accusations had failed. In contrast your attacks on him were based on him, correctly, pointing out all the inaccuracies and flaws in your initial posts.

[Kidlicious]

Again... ONLY AFTER YOU CONTINUED TO CLAIM I SAID IT WAS OK TO HAVE SEX WITH 15 YEAR OLDS... which I NEVER SAID.
After multiple attempts to get you to stop, you left me no other choice then to show you what it felt like.

So... stop your lies, and maybe other people will stop theirs against you. It seems simple enough.

Please keep calling me a wife beater. I continue to believe that yoy think someone who had sex with a 15 year old should collect child support based on your actions not your words. Not lying. That's how I see it. There's a BIG DIFFERENCE between that and just making up some ****ing nonsense lie. But hey go ahead. I'm amuzed.

[Ming]

Coming from someone who obsessively calls me a woman beater.

Again... ONLY AFTER YOU CONTINUED TO CLAIM I SAID IT WAS OK TO HAVE SEX WITH 15 YEAR OLDS... which I NEVER SAID.
After multiple attempts to get you to stop, you left me no other choice then to show you what it felt like.

So... stop your lies, and maybe other people will stop theirs against you. It seems simple enough.

[Kidlicious]

Well... maybe you should stick to telling the truth.

Coming from someone who obsessively calls me a woman beater.

[Kidlicious]

I've got a mother, wife, 2 daughters, can't see any relation to your women hating ranting to the 'truth'.

Even if we ignored that a very high proportion of your posts at the moment seem to be abuse or personal attacks.

Oh so you are going to falsely accuse me and accuse me of falsely accusing people? Please continue.

[MikeH]

Apparently I should look at the Arizona gay thread as well. I can't bring myself to do that today. Had enough hate for one afternoon.

[MikeH]

I've got a mother, wife, 2 daughters, can't see any relation to your women hating ranting to the 'truth'.

Even if we ignored that a very high proportion of your posts at the moment seem to be abuse or personal attacks.

[100% Wolf]

There's no evidence that it's a lie. Also, it doesn't matter if it is.

Remember this?

[Ming]

Have fun with your witch hunt. It's always amuzing to find people who hate the truth so much they can't listen to it.

Well... maybe you should stick to telling the truth.

[Kidlicious]

Have fun with your witch hunt. It's always amuzing to find people who hate the truth so much they can't listen to it.

[MikeH]

Having taken Kid off ignore for long enough to see some of his more recent constant flow of insults, baseless accusations and general abuse I've started a discussion in the Moderation forum about what our response should be, it's clearly unacceptable.