Abortion Doctor Gunned Down at Church

[Patroklos]

being allegedly pro-life and killing someone is such a retarded contradiction I think my head might explode.

It is not a contradiction, "Pro-life" has come to encompass any group against abortion when in reality it only applies to a very specific group of people who are against any destuction of life. You are simply purposely contorting a very simple position in order to serve your desired propoganda requirements.

In any case, this was wrong

[Asher]

Hope the guy gets the death penalty.

[MikeH]

It is not a contradiction, "Pro-life" has come to encompass any group against abortion when in reality it only applies to a very specific group of people who are against any destuction of life. You are simply purposely contorting a very simple position in order to serve your desired propoganda requirements.

Why else would you be against abortion on principle though?

I mean, at least that position is defensible even if it's impractical in practice.

[Patroklos]

Why else would you be against abortion on principle though?

Because I am only against the destuction of innocent human life maybe? I don't think it is very hard to see the differenct between sentancing a innocent baby who has done no wrong and a brutal convicted murder of his own choice to death.

[MikeH]

If you've got the death penalty then you've got innocent people getting executed.

There might be a place where they've never executed anyone innocent, but I doubt it unless they've hardly used that penalty any times.

If they found a gene that caused people to be murderers, would it be ok to abort those babies on the basis that they are innocent now but in the future would probably kill?

[Kuciwalker]

being allegedly pro-life and killing someone is such a retarded contradiction I think my head might explode.

Like when someone's 'pro-life' but supports the death penalty or a vegetarian wearing leather shoes.

It makes plenty of sense if you think the guy is a serial killer and by killing him you'd be preventing many more deaths.

Which, really, is the correct belief if you are anti-abortion.

[Kuciwalker]

If you've got the death penalty then you've got innocent people getting executed.

Yes, but presumably a much smaller percentage.

[Kitschum]

A murder in the United States. I'm shocked.

[Patroklos]

If you've got the death penalty then you've got innocent people getting executed.

There might be a place where they've never executed anyone innocent, but I doubt it unless they've hardly used that penalty any times.

Show me a perfect system for anything, and I'll give you a cookie.

If they found a gene that caused people to be murderers, would it be ok to abort those babies on the basis that they are innocent now but in the future would probably kill?

This has to be the worst strawman I have encountered in awhile. I'll simply quote myself, because your comment in no way refutes the simple logic of what I said. I'll even rebold the relevant parts you should pay attention to.

Because I am only against the destuction of innocent human life maybe? I don't think it is very hard to see the differenct between sentancing a innocent baby who has done no wrong and a brutal convicted murder of his own choice to death.

[Ben Kenobi]

The New York Times on February 27, 1997

This is a prolife newspaper?

If you feel this is a private matter, why do you ask me?

Thank you. I do feel it is a private matter, which is why I was arguing that it should be dealt with on an individual basis rather then taxing everyone.

[Ben Kenobi]

That is your opinion. And by what right do you presume to stuff it down other peoples throats?

First amendment.

It gives me the right to express myself in a peaceful manner anyway I choose.

I'm sorry I hurt your feelings, but I have every right to express my opinion.

[SpencerH]

Despite that I feel that his murder was wrong, I feel no loss for this particular abortionist. The use of late term abortions as birth control is an abomination.

[MrFun]

For most part, I oppose late term abortions, allowing it for only a FEW exceptions.

[OzzyKP]

http://media.nationalreview.com/post/?q=ZDljYjA1ODJhZjk5ZjU1YmRjOTdiODNkNGYzNTRiNTc=

Here's a Story Idea that Will Be Ignored: Two Shootings [Kevin D. Williamson]

Shortly after the murder of George Tiller, pro-life groups put out statements denouncing the crime. These statements came from all over the pro-life camp. Some were more forthright than others, it it true, but most were admirable in their categorical rejection of vigilante killings.

This morning, a U.S. Army recruiting station was attacked. One recruiter was killed, another hurt. Any statements from the antiwar Left deploring that violence? I've seen none from Code Pink, which has called U.S. servicemen "war criminals" and worse in service of a "fascist dictatorship," and whose rhetoric has, in general, been comparable to that of the less temperate branches of the pro-life movement. If you want to check International ANSWER'S press statements, you'll find nothing deploring this violence.

This isn't the first attack on a recruiting station, and the antiwar Left has been open in calling for violence against members of the American military. It is right (or at least it seems so to me) that pro-lifers are expected to actively renounce the rhetoric and actions of those who share our position, broadly defined, but who employ unacceptable methods. Why the double standard for the antiwar crowd? Any bets on whether the New York Times op-ed page in the morning will even take note of the event?

Should we be on the look out for these anti-war terrorist organizations?

[Elok]

I really can't get too upset that this butcher is dead, but I am opposed to all terrorism as a matter of principle. BAD gun-wielding lunatic! BAD!