Was That Ignorant ***** in California Discussed?

[duke o' york]

Yes, sorry. I'm not an advocate of the Chinese method of birth control - far from it.

[Dinner]

Also declaring wanting a massive family to be a mental illness and force her incarceration for it (she ain't going willingly) may be considered a bit much.

Her mother has described her has been absolutely obsessed with having more and more children. If her mother thinks she's mentally obsessed with an idea then why should we argue?

[Dinner]

I hear California is releasing violent prisoners because of budget shortfalls. Brilliant! How's that working for you Oerdin?

It's nonviolent offenders. Mostly drug offenders.

[Solomwi]

Her mother has described her has been absolutely obsessed with having more and more children. If her mother thinks she's mentally obsessed with an idea then why should be argue?

Because her mother may easily be as bat**** insane as she is?

And, as an aside, your earlier post makes me wonder how many of these kids California or some other state will wind up paying to incarcerate anyway.

[Ben Kenobi]

It's nonviolent offenders. Mostly drug offenders.

I heard violent offenders. They just want to free up space in prison, because they are basically bankrupt.

[duke o' york]

Is that because of the massive child support payouts?

[Zkribbler]

I hear California is releasing violent prisoners because of budget shortfalls. Brilliant! How's that working for you Oerdin?

Not necessarily violent, but certainly felons.

This was predicted when the voters passed the 3-strikes law. The reaction to the warning that our prisons would become overcrowded, but the standard reply is, "we'll gladly pay for more prisons." Then, of course, every proposed tax increase was rejected. And so now our prisons have reached the level of being inhuman. Prisoners are sleeping in the rec halls, the dining halls and the corridors. Suicides, violence, etc. are all up. It'll take billions to fix the problems, which we don't have. And so...

Folks gripe about incompetent elected official, but direct democracy is far worse. Voters can't seem to grasp that if they want government services (e.g. more felons in prison), these services have to be paid for.

[Dinner]

I heard violent offenders. They just want to free up space in prison, because they are basically bankrupt.

Link about violent offenders? Oh, and yes Republicans have caused the state massive financial problems. This all dates back to the constitutional "reforms" the Republicans pushed through in the early 80's which changed it from a simple majority (50% +1 vote) to pass any tax increase or spending cut to requiring a super majority (2/3rds vote) to get a tax increase or a spending cut. You can still add spending with just a simple majority.

You can get 1/3rd of the politicians to oppose anything so it isn't a surprise that the result of this GOP "reform" has been complete gridlock. I mean in the 29 years since the GOP screwed up the state government not a single state budget has ever passed on time. We're two month into the new year and we still don't have a budget largely because the GOP refuses to increase taxes while the Democrats refuse to cut spending. **** Howard Jarvis and Ronald Reagan may they both be burning in hell.

[Jon Miller]

Actually it's a sign of mental illness not to want kids...biologically speaking you should have as many kids as you can...so technically she is saner than most people.

I agree with this, if can means can support. And she probably can, thanks to the government, so good for her.

I hope to have as large of family as I can*, even if I probably won't start until I am in my 30s.

JM
*support

[Jon Miller]

Link about violent offenders? Oh, and yes Republicans have caused the state massive financial problems. This all dates back to the constitutional "reforms" the Republicans pushed through in the early 80's which changed it from a simple majority (50% +1 vote) to pass any tax increase or spending cut to requiring a super majority (2/3rds vote) to get a tax increase or a spending cut. You can still add spending with just a simple majority.

You can get 1/3rd of the politicians to oppose anything so it isn't a surprise that the result of this GOP "reform" has been complete gridlock. I mean in the 29 years since the GOP screwed up the state government not a single state budget has ever passed on time. We're two month into the new year and we still don't have a budget largely because the GOP refuses to increase taxes while the Democrats refuse to cut spending. **** Howard Jarvis and Ronald Reagan may they both be burning in hell.

Yeah, this is one of the most stupid things ever.

JM

[Dinner]

It does what the GOP intended which is to make the state government completely disfunctional. The problem is most people want their government to actually function. Well, everyone not in the GOP.

[Zkribbler]

... I mean in the 29 years since the GOP screwed up the state government not a single state budget has ever passed on time...

Not true. One was passed on time.

[Ben Kenobi]

Folks gripe about incompetent elected official, but direct democracy is far worse. Voters can't seem to grasp that if they want government services (e.g. more felons in prison), these services have to be paid for.

I can think of plenty of things that should be cut before prison services. The issue isn't funding but priorities.

[Ben Kenobi]

Oh, and yes Republicans have caused the state massive financial problems. This all dates back to the constitutional "reforms" the Republicans pushed through in the early 80's which changed it from a simple majority (50% +1 vote) to pass any tax increase or spending cut to requiring a super majority (2/3rds vote) to get a tax increase or a spending cut.

The Republicans aren't the ones opposing a spending cut. The Democrats are just as responsible for the impasse, since they are unwilling to present a budget with spending cuts, instead preferring to increase taxes to make up the shortfall.

You can get 1/3rd of the politicians to oppose anything so it isn't a surprise that the result of this GOP "reform" has been complete gridlock.

If the Democrats were willing to abandon their quest for more and better taxes, then the budget would pass easily.

I mean in the 29 years since the GOP screwed up the state government not a single state budget has ever passed on time. We're two month into the new year and we still don't have a budget largely
because the GOP refuses to increase taxes while the Democrats refuse to cut spending. **** Howard Jarvis and Ronald Reagan may they both be burning in hell.

So why then is the impasse the fault of the republicans? Seems to me the Democrats ought to cut spending if they want their budget to get passed.

[Dinner]

Not true. One was passed on time.

Which year would that be? I sure as hell can't remember it.