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The European Dream is the last hope for the ultimate victory of humanist ideals
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"An archaeologist is the best husband a women can have; the older she gets, the more interested he is in her." - Agatha Christie
"Non mortem timemus, sed cogitationem mortis." - Seneca
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Originally posted by Traianvs View PostI think Doc means there needs to be another superpower that is an ally / friend to the United States. Russia - especially given 20th century history - only barely meets that requirement"I say shoot'em all and let God sort it out in the end!
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There is nothing quite as funny as Europeans trying to be cool by copying American rap. :snicker:Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.
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Originally posted by Naked Gents Rut View PostOrganic food is a scam and is actually a more corporate and environmentally-unfriendly endeavor than regular farming.Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.
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Originally posted by Kuciwalker View Postthat's the best thing they've got going for themI'm consitently stupid- Japher
I think that opinion in the United States is decidedly different from the rest of the world because we have a free press -- by free, I mean a virgorously presented right wing point of view on the air and available to all.- Ned
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Originally posted by Traianvs View PostTCO says we're Eurowimps,I'm consitently stupid- Japher
I think that opinion in the United States is decidedly different from the rest of the world because we have a free press -- by free, I mean a virgorously presented right wing point of view on the air and available to all.- Ned
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I have strontium for breakfast each morning.Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.
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Originally posted by Heraclitus View PostIf humanity is capable of improving itself and learning from history it will first do so in Europe since it is the home of a family of cultures that has produced some of histories greatest geniuses and villains.
No disagreement on open trade. Free movement could be a good idea too, but already here we're seeing problems. A united foreign policy? Please.
I'm not arguing that you can't feel European, or that you shouldn't. What I could argue, however, is that most people don't share this idealism and never will, regardless of whether we end up sharing currencies etc.
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Hey, our individual colonies got over it. It just takes awhile. Since they were new entities they were able to merge quicker... a united Europe is possible, it'll just take a loong time to get over nationalist feelings.I'm consitently stupid- Japher
I think that opinion in the United States is decidedly different from the rest of the world because we have a free press -- by free, I mean a virgorously presented right wing point of view on the air and available to all.- Ned
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Originally posted by Theben View PostYou had a chance to prove otherwise and yet you created that wussmaster rap song. Stack that against America, **** Yeah! and tell me which one's the *****."An archaeologist is the best husband a women can have; the older she gets, the more interested he is in her." - Agatha Christie
"Non mortem timemus, sed cogitationem mortis." - Seneca
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Blah. The national characters of the euro nations are so different its like the multiple personalities of Syble. They all live in the same place and they all want to take over and none of them like the others. Europe is like one very screwed up chick except that euros, even the guys, think they're hotter than your run of the mill screwed up chick. If there didn't why would they wear bikini bottoms?Long time member @ Apolyton
Civilization player since the dawn of time
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Originally posted by Theben View PostHey, our individual colonies got over it. It just takes awhile. Since they were new entities they were able to merge quicker... a united Europe is possible, it'll just take a loong time to get over nationalist feelings.
As for the nationalist feelings, why would this European feeling in a united Europe be any less of a nationalist feeling than the current ones? Seems to me it's just about replacing one nationalist feeling with a new one. It's not like there won't still be some people on the inside and some people on the outside...
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