A question about the differences between conservatives and liberals

[Imran Siddiqui]

You could just give us the answer you are thinking about.

Otherwise, we'll just descend into sillyness as every thread in the OT eventually does.

[SpencerH]

Well, I was hoping for a few of the more insufferable liberals to whine their opinions.

Based upon previous 'discussions' at poly, I noted that the more "liberal-minded" the poster, the less likely they were to identify that Jessups fault was his lack of honour and they were more likely to cite Jessups order of the "code red", either because it was illegal or immoral.

On the stand, Jessup rages on about honour and Tom Cruise characters lack of it, but in fact he has none himself. Jessup should not have allowed the two young marines to become the sole scapegoats for what was a failure by all. Jessup's second in command "fell on his sword" in atonement, so should Jessup have done.

So I guess I should re-phrase the question, are liberals less likely to understand honour?

[Theben]

So in the conservative mind, his fault was not to "fall on his sword"?

[Imran Siddiqui]

Originally posted by Theben
So in the conservative mind, his fault was not to "fall on his sword"?

I guess... which is kinda ****ed up.

I'd hope conservatives may be concerned that he... you know, broke the law and all.

[SpencerH]

Damn thing wont let me edit so I'll add this here.


Are liberals less likely to recognize and understand honour?

If so, is it due to a mental deficiency or lack of worldy experience?

Is it why liberals cannot understand and often despise and deride the southlands?

[Imran Siddiqui]

I'd argue that conservatives are more interested in if you broke the law rather than disgracing yourself. This ain't Japan.

[SpencerH]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui




I guess... which is kinda ****ed up.

I'd hope conservatives may be concerned that he... you know, broke the law and all.

I dont see breaking the law as a liberal or conservative trait in and of itself.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Yeah, which is why I don't think your differentiation makes any sense. 'Cause I think conservatives as well as liberals would say his worst act was to think of himself above the law or to break the law.

After all, Ben Kenobi is no stinkin' liberal , and that was his answer.

[Theben]

Originally posted by SpencerH
If so, is it due to a mental deficiency or lack of worldy experience?

You throw this in and expect me to take you seriously?

[DaShi]

libruls are stupid, throw rocks at them!

[SpencerH]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
Yeah, which is why I don't think your differentiation makes any sense. 'Cause I think conservatives as well as liberals would say his worst act was to think of himself above the law or to break the law.

After all, Ben Kenobi is no stinkin' liberal , and that was his answer.

I see it more that liberals and conservatives both recognize that it is (usually) wrong to break the law but only conservatives pick up on the lack of honour aspect.

EDIT to finish the thought

..... lack of honour aspect and view it as an important feature of the whats wrong.

It reminds me of the Police song "Every breath you take", the meaning of which often differentiates between men and women.

[Ben Kenobi]

I wasn't so concerned about the code red, but about this part.

I have a greater responsibility than you can possibly fathom.

As for me being a conservative, I've always scored almost exactly the same as Imran on the compass. So FWIW, take that assessment with a grain of salt.

[SpencerH]

Originally posted by Theben


You throw this in and expect me to take you seriously?

I agree that it may be seen as somewhat provocative. Its not meant to be insulting, however.

[SpencerH]

Originally posted by Ben Kenobi
I wasn't so concerned about the code red, but about this part.

In what respect? I'd agree with Jessups statement. It explains the basis for his decision to order the code red depite his knowledge that it was illegal (that and his arrogance of course).

[Imran Siddiqui]

Originally posted by SpencerH
I see it more that liberals and conservatives both recognize that it is (usually) wrong to break the law but only conservatives pick up on Jessup's lack of honour.

I guess Arrian's a conservative now (again)?

It reminds me of the Police song "Every breath you take", the meaning of which often differentiates between men and women.

I think everyone (well most people who pay attention) these days realizes it is about a stalker.