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  • #46
    You know that if a Democrat were in the White House this delay wouldn't even be considered.

    I'm glad the gap is widening, I was worried that we might be headed towards a new Cold War.
    "I say shoot'em all and let God sort it out in the end!

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    • #47
      How much do you want to bet he wants to delay this one, to delay the Veep debate, because Palin is much more retarded than they anticipated and needs more time?
      "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
      Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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      • #48

        So perhaps McCain is needed back in Washington, according to Harry Reid at least.


        He needed McCain's final vote on the legislation. No way that the Dems are going to open themselves up to association with Bush and a corporate bailout if McCain's not coming along for the ride. Not for anything else.
        "Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
        -Bokonon

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        • #49
          Originally posted by Ramo

          So perhaps McCain is needed back in Washington, according to Harry Reid at least.


          He needed McCain's vote. No way that the Dems are going to open themselves up to association with Bush and a corporate bailout if McCain's not coming along for the ride. Not for anything else.
          But it can easily be taken (or, if you prefer, spun) the other way.
          “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
          - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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          • #50
            The "other way" is totally ludicrous on it's face. McCain hasn't cast a single vote in the Senate since April. But his presence now is suddenly absolutely imperative. Right
            "Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
            -Bokonon

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            • #51
              McCain holds the key to such a bipartisan vote, according to Reid, because Republicans are likely to defer to his position on a bill that holds political peril.
              “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
              - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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              • #52
                As I said, it's McCain's vote that he needs. Not anything else. McCain should be ashamed about pulling this crap.
                "Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
                -Bokonon

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                • #53
                  And you are being extremely short sided if you can't see how the McCain side can use his statements ("Republicans are likely to defer to his position") to say that he need to be there because he doesn't agree with the bill as presented and wants changes.
                  “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                  - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                  • #54
                    We know he'll spin it. Why are you arguing this?
                    "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                    Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                    • #55
                      And he'll have to explain why he only came up with this wonderful idea two days before the debate, or why he's convinced that Friday's the last chance to make any changes. He can argue whatever nonsense he pleases to. But he should still be ashamed about this.
                      "Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
                      -Bokonon

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                      • #56
                        Both can be handled with a small bit of finagling. First, McCain had to go through the Paulson plan and also the Congress seemed to not like the plan as presented and wanted some changes made to the bill. Second, he never said Friday is the last chance, but said he wants to get it done as soon as possible.... which would mean working all the way through.

                        Is it a Hail Mary pass? Sure... but he needs a few.
                        “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                        - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                        • #57
                          Why's he campaigning tomorrow (at the Clinton Global Initiative), if every moment counts?
                          "Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
                          -Bokonon

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                          • #58
                            I'm not sure many people would call speaking at the Clinton Global Initiative "campaigning", especially as its being hosted by President Bill Clinton, who I hope, everyone realizes is no Republican.
                            “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                            - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                            • #59
                              I don't even know why US bothers with polls... we all know they are useless (in US) and that the Republicans are winning anyway...
                              Socrates: "Good is That at which all things aim, If one knows what the good is, one will always do what is good." Brian: "Romanes eunt domus"
                              GW 2013: "and juistin bieber is gay with me and we have 10 kids we live in u.s.a in the white house with obama"

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by Asher
                                We know he'll spin it. Why are you arguing this?
                                QFT
                                I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
                                - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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