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I think the devil may be in the details on this one Asher. I think the same comment was used in 2 different ways. 
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There were definately reasons why suffrage was far from universal in the original constitution............Originally posted by rah
Once again, perception will trump the issues.
GO AMERICA
I guess we couldn't call ourselves a democracy if we didn't let the ignorant vote.
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You mean, at the time the Constitution was adopted. The original Constitution makes no mention of suffrage.Comment
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The old guys were smarter than we thought.
It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
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It really is amazing that the media is calling Obama's use of a common idiom to describe his opponent's agenda sexist, when McCain used exactly the same idiom to describe Hillary's agenda last year. It's exactly the satire of political correctness that they (edit: Republicans) whine about. This ability that the McCain campaign has had in playing the refs is probably a large part of why they've pulled ahead.Last edited by Ramo; September 10, 2008, 17:01."Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
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I take back what I said... it doesn't seem to have had anything to do with Palin. He was obviously refering to the Bush/McCain policy similarity and the claim of "change" in that regard.
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I do believe I heard all the Dems calling such a statement sexist.
Sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander.
I'm very pleased with the pick of Palin, all Obama had to do was pick Hillary and he'd be winning.Scouse Git (2) La Fayette Adam Smith Solomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
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You have a lot of ridiculous beliefs. I'm not surprised about this one either."Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
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In the Phils we often own pigs, and we own lipstick. I'm going to do some political research.
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My money is on the pig still being a pig, with or without lipstick. (Fire now... that's how you turn a pig to pork/bacon!)Comment
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I promise the experiment will be very tastefully done.
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You're being really silly.Originally posted by Lancer
I'm thinking of starting a tread...
'Gentlemanliness for Democrats 101'
You know, a refresher on the basics.
Lipstick on a pig has nothing to do with Palin. It's about policy. It's the narrative of change from "business as usual." The pig, in this case, is a way of governing. The lipstick is the spin of the "mavericks" campaign being run by McCain & Palin. Yeah, the party that ****ed up horribly while in power is now the party we should vote in to fix the mess! Right on!
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Yes I know. Its just politics, both sides do it.Long time member @ Apolyton
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True. Distributing sauce on the basis of avian gender is sexist.Originally posted by Ben Kenobi
Sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander.
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Bacon, exhibit A:
Out of bounds! McCain misstates Obama sex-ed record
WASHINGTON — Throw the flag against: The McCain-Palin campaign.
Call: Unsportsmanlike conduct.
What happened: A new 30-second TV ad attacks Barack Obama's record on education, saying that Obama backed legislation to teach "'comprehensive sex education' to kindergartners." The announcer then says, "Learning about sex before learning to read? Barack Obama. Wrong on education. Wrong for your family."
Why that's wrong: This is a deliberately misleading accusation. It came hours after the Obama campaign released a TV ad critical of McCain's votes on public education. As a state senator in Illinois, Obama did vote for but was not a sponsor of legislation dealing with sex ed for grades K-12.
But the legislation allowed local school boards to teach "age-appropriate" sex education, not comprehensive lessons to kindergartners, and it gave schools the ability to warn young children about inappropriate touching and sexual predators.
Republican Alan Keyes tried to use Obama's vote against him in the 2004 U.S. Senate race. At the time, Obama spoke about wanting to protect young children from abuse. He made clear then that he was not supporting teaching kindergartners about explicit details of sex.
Obama spokesman Bill Burton said Tuesday of McCain's ad: "It is shameful and downright perverse for the McCain campaign to use a bill that was written to protect young children from sexual predators as a recycled and discredited political attack against a father of two young girls."
Penalty: 15 yards for the McCain campaign's deliberate low blow.
They try to portray anti-child predator legislation as pro-kindergarten sex. Some of the most scurrilous advertising I've seen from a political campaign. This is including the Bush campaign."Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
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