It's war. Part III

[Serb]

But I doubt your geography skills are sufficient to find Russia on the map (as long it's not painted in red, of course).

[SlowwHand]

I can find Russia fine. It's that nothing of a rock, surrounded by democratic countries.

[Serb]

A democratic countries, like Georgia, right?

[Serb]

Originally posted by Oerdin


You simply order them to stop looting, pillaging, and killing. If they don't then you shoot them. That's what real peace keepers would do but Russia is just letting their proxies run wild.

Why didn't you, personally YOU and your brothers in arms didn't stop the looting of Baghdad?
You were the illegal, but still the occupying force and as an occupying force it was your duty to prevent looting. But no, not only you did nothing to stop it, you encouraged it.

[Serb]

Originally posted by Blaupanzer
Russia has never renounced or denounced ethnic cleansing. Thus, the Ossetian irregulars are serving a role useful to the Russian state. They are killing and/or driving out the ethnic Georgians from Ossetia. The Russians do not want this stopped.

The facts that these actions are cruel and brutal are quite incidental to them. Russia told Georgia not to intervene in Ossetia. The current cruelties are one of the punishments applied to those who do not listen.

The West needs to gear up to prevent repeats in the Baltic states, Ukraine, and/or Moldava. Condemning Russian behavior doesn't seem to be very useful. Stalin, when told that one of his actions had been condemned by the Pope, famously asked, "How many divisions does the Pope have?" I think Putin would find that story delightful. He may already know and admire it.

You mess us with someone else here. That is exactly what you did in Kosovo when Albanians did their ethnic cleansing of the area and draw Serbians from their native land.

[Serb]

Originally posted by Chemical Ollie


Ironically, Stalin was a Georgian.

Moreover, he was born in Gori.

[Serb]

Originally posted by onodera
I wish I could use the power of commercial break too.

****ing lying biatches.
The western unbiased, free media, my ass.
**** those bastards, **** such western "truth".
****ing mindless zombies with no ability to think for themselves and to analyze facts.

[Victor Galis]

Originally posted by Kuciwalker


What? Everyone who has said we need to be a lot warier of Russia has just been vindicated. We need to be more aggressive (geopolitically) towards them, not less.

That means letting Ukraine into NATO. That means US bases in Poland. That means everything else we can do to eliminate their sphere of influence.

Missle defense won't do anything against the Russians, it just pisses them off. We need to give it up in exchange for some concession we want.

[Serb]

Originally posted by Jon Miller
12 yearold girl

I can not even imagine

anything else he repeats over and over?

JM

Her words were corrupted and edited many times when she gave interviews. And when she got a chance to say the truth in open air, they just shut her and her aunt down.
Great. The unbiased western media (lying brainwashing propaganda machine to be precise)
If you don't trust to the words of a girl who escaped death from the hands of butchers you trained, supplied and whom you now are trying to whitewash to, why don't you listen to your a bit older countryman, a former US Army soldier?
This is the message to all Americans from their fellow countryman:

[Serb]

Originally posted by Victor Galis


Missle defense won't do anything against the Russians, it just pisses them off. We need to give it up in exchange for some concession we want.

Yeah, right. The Poles were selling their soil to Americans for 1.5 years for now. And then - surprise, surprise, just after few days after the South Ossetia they surprisingly reached an agreement with the US.
Not when Iran tested its new generation of ballistic missiles, not when Iran increased its capability to produce a radioactive material, but when Russia responded to Georgian agression vs. the South Ossetia.

Right, who the **** do you think we are to believe that this shield is aimed vs. Iran, not Russia? You think we will buy the bullsh!t that this missiles do not posses any threat to us?
If you are a bunch of brainless morons whose brains have been totally ****ed by your propaganda, that doesn't mean we are too.

[Serb]

Originally posted by Victor Galis
At this point, I suspect some major concessions need to be made to make Russia back off.

And let your Sukashvili pet to finish what he has started - massacring of civilians with heavy weaponry?
Right, in your dreams.
Do whatever the **** you wish, we won't leave our peacekeepers and our citizens behind.

[Serb]

Originally posted by Lancer
Russia is now an aggressor in Georgia.

How this could be true if it's clear fact that Russia sent reinforcements to its peacekeeping force the day after Georgian started the war vs. the South Ossetia?
If we are aggressors, then who is Sukashvili who ordered to bombard the South Ossetian capital with heavy armaments when its residents were peacefully sleeping?
Answer this question!!! Who the **** is this person in your westernverse? An innocent victim?

[Serb]

Originally posted by SlowwHand
You're damned skippy, but that's the obligation of the strong; to answer pleas for help from the weak, again, vs. the asses that call themselves Russian, Serb. Your people suck.

Another insult of my people? Then FY, Sir Moron.
You are disgrace of what your people and your country was meant to be. You support a dictator who suppressed all opposition in his country by seizing media, pogroming independent TV stations, killing and jailing the opposition leaders, beating the protesters and finally by starting the aggression war and massacring a peacefully sleeping city.
And no, I'm not talking about Russia (as your media tell you so) I'm talking about Georgia and your pet monkey president Sukashvili who did all of this. So, Shame on you.
Either you are disgrace of American ideals of freedom or your American ideals were just a fake and bullsh!t from the beggining (as I believe and as your administration and the media proves once again).

[Serb]

Originally posted by Lancer


Absolutely priceless.

I'm glad you liked it.

Serb, be calm. Nothing said here will matter in the least. The only thing of any consequence accomplished here were the houses Sloww mentioned (and also contributed to) that Poly folks built for poor people in the Phils. That's it.

Actually that's the first time I hear about that.

[DinoDoc]

From the other thread a post that has particular bearing on you Serb:

Originally posted by Sirotnikov

http://www.businessweek.com/blogs/russia_oil_politics/archives/2008/08/listen_to_the_g.html

The Genocide in South Ossetia
Posted by: Steve LeVine on August 15

The death toll is in for South Ossetia, where Russia accused Georgia of genocide, citing the murder of more than 1,500 civilians for a humanitarian invasion of Georgia.

The figure appears to be about four dozen. Quoting a hospital where virtually all the dead appear to have been taken, since the morgue was without electricity, The Wall Street Journal’s Andrew Osborn puts the figure at 45; and Human Rights Watch says it was about 44. There may have been an additional few victims whose bodies did not reach the hospital.

O and G readers from the State Department and elsewhere have written me privately that they regard Georgian President Mikheil Saakashvili as reckless, irrational, and megalomaniacal. They and others I trust regard Saakashvili with opprobrium for bringing on Russia’s wrath.

That Russia would defend South Ossetia was certain. But increasing evidence makes the attack look well pre-planned, not spontaneous. And the authentic death toll makes the justification appear to be a pretext for that attack.

I had a Skype call from Tbilisi tonight from Lawrence Sheets, with whom I reported from the Caucasus from 1992 through 2003. He was then with Reuters; now he’s the regional representative for the International Crisis Group.

Sheets says that he’s pored over the events leading up to the fighting, and says that Saakashvili was left with a choice on August 7th — allow a devastating South Ossetian attack on Georgian villages adjacent to the regional capital of Tskhinvali, or stop it. And Saakashvili decided to stop it. Sheets doesn’t regard that as reckless.

The course of events make it appear that the West may countenance both effective Russian annexation of both South Ossetia and Abkhazia, under the guise of a form of independence, and occupation of swaths of Georgia proper. The best scenario seems to be only temporary occupation before a permanent imposition of the former — the annexation part.

We got a picture of what that occupation could look like, at least for now, in the Georgian city of Gori today. Under the watchful eyes of Russian soldiers sitting on tanks, a paramilitary soldier stole two new SUVs belonging to United Nations officials, then dispersed them and journalists by firing into the air. As described by Yaroslav Trofimov, my former Wall Street Journal colleague, three of the U.N. officials escaped by jumping into his car, which then sped away.