Who do you hate more?

[Zanarkand]

I think it's the other way around, Nick.

[Traianvs]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
Arabs are Caucasian, so I don't see why they wouldn't be. Though, then again, the Slavs didn't get off all the easy under the Nazi ideology.

Eh, Arabs are semites...

[Felch]

Mothers
Against
Drunk
Driving

Self righteous ****s.

[DirtyMartini]

Originally posted by Nikolai
He is in fact my mental side-kick.

he's certainly mental.

[GePap]

Originally posted by David Floyd
Well, then, for that matter, "Nazism" also should encompass the periods in which extermination camps didn't exist - which, incidentally, they did not for most of the Nazi reign. The extermination camps started in mid-1942 and went through mid-1945. That's three years out of the 12 year reign.

Concetration camps began from the start. Extermination camps were simply the best method found for mass scale quick genocide.

Similarly, there were periods in communist history that were marginally better than the time under Stalin and Mao. My point is this: If you take the worst of both regimes, I would be better off under Nazism, and if you take the best of both regimes, I would still be better off under Nazism. I'm not defending Nazi policy, I'm just saying that if I had to pick - Nazi Germany at a random period in it's history, a random communist nation at a random period in history, and a random fundamentalist Muslim country at a random period in it's history, then odds are pretty good I'd be better off picking Nazi Germany.

Nazi history lasted only 12 years - the ideology was so radical it burned itself out. If the Soviet Union lasted for 70 years it is because that ideology was far more stable, so your test would hardly work.

Eh, Nazism was based on racial purity, communism was and is based on making everyone equally poor. Nothing "mixed" about either record - the records of both systems speak for themselves.

Yes, it does. Imran is just shocked that you are so biased you are blind to the evidence.

[Felch]

Originally posted by GePap
Nazi history lasted only 12 years - the ideology was so radical it burned itself out. If the Soviet Union lasted for 70 years it is because that ideology was far more stable, so your test would hardly work.

Millions of Allied troops had nothing to do with the fall of Nazism?

[GePap]

Originally posted by Felch


Millions of Allied troops had nothing to do with the fall of Nazism?

The only reason millions of any kind of troops would be involved is because Nazi ideology called for war.

I think DF also forgets that the only reason much more of Europe was not razed to the ground was because various German officials and officers constantly ignored Hitler's demands that everything, including Germany, burn. Hitler would have happily destroyed Germany for having failed to show themselves the superior race (by losing).

[Tattila the Hun]

I don't actually know any members of the NSDAP, so I can't make an informed decision.

[Felch]

I think your argument that it burned out because of radicalism is still unconvincing. Perhaps if you said that it burned out because Hitler was a strategic imbecile, that would make more sense. Starting Barbarossa before finishing off Britain, and then declaring war on the US after Pearl Harbor, that's what wiped them out.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Originally posted by Felch
I think your argument that it burned out because of radicalism is still unconvincing. Perhaps if you said that it burned out because Hitler was a strategic imbecile, that would make more sense. Starting Barbarossa before finishing off Britain, and then declaring war on the US after Pearl Harbor, that's what wiped them out.

Well that's part of the radicalism, isn't it? Naziism calls for constant warfare. Sometimes that means fighting a multiple front war and when you believe you are the master race, so what, should be easy?

[Zanarkand]

he's certainly mental.

That I wouldn't know. I never got to know the results of my last CAT scan.. The doctor took a look at the results, and ran out of the door screaming and crying.

[Ben Kenobi]

Anyone who hates anything here more than Nazis should have their dick cut off and shoved up their ass.

You'd prefer Radical Islam to the Nazis? Man.

Nazis as bad as they were burned bright and died fast.

The west has been battling Islam for what now? Almost a millennium and a half?

[MORON]

I hate outdated concepts as much as I hate the imaginary devil.

Now, people you can actually drop explosives on, those are worthy of hate.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Heraclitus

Your entire post is intellectually bankrupt.

Germany today has 80 million people, back then it killed 12 million people in various extermination programs and started a war that claimed enough people to dwarf that number. It would take PRC an absurd number to match that kill ratio.

But most of those twelve millions weren't Germans. You've have to include from the whole Nazi Empire, which stretched from Brittany to Stalingrad and Crete to Narvik. At a guess, I'd say at its height, it probably had 200 million people under it's control.

On the other hand, Floyd is being very disingenuous, by transferring some twenty to twenty-five million deaths from the Nazis over to Stalin. The figure of 25 to 35 million dead under Stalin includes the war dead from WWII. In fact, pretty much all of the war dead in the European theater need to be laid at the feet of National Socialism. In twelve years, they managed to bring about the deaths of some 41.5 million people in Europe (including those murdered in the Holocaust), give or take.

According to the Soviet archives, as a result of the direct policies of Stalin, some 3.3 million died in the Great Famine. About a million communists were executed. About 4 to 5 million others died in the camps, most of them during WWII, because the were on the bottom of the list for provisions during the war. We're looking at between 8 to 10 million, tops, about half of whom would most likely have lived had food not been scarce because of the Nazi invasion

Of course, arguing about who was worse is about arguing whether Beelzebub or Mammon is the worse devil. In any event, Floyd's assumption he'd be better off under Hitler than Stalin isn't necessarily true. Given Floyd's strong opinions, both dictators would probably be equally likely to send him to the camps.

[Traianvs]

Originally posted by Ben Kenobi


The west has been battling Islam for what now? Almost a millennium and a half?

Lame troll