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  • #61
    Hear hear, Az...
    Is it me, or is MOBIUS a horrible person?

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    • #62
      Originally posted by Sirotnikov
      because it is more important that israeli families can live in peace, than that lebanese prisoners paying a due.
      There's no point in paying such a high price for broken merchandise. It only serves to weaken you and make you appear foolish.
      I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
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      • #63
        Originally posted by Az
        mea culpa. I sure as hell wouldn't want my dead body to be retrieved for the release of a bunch of *******s. And probably neither would you. Or them, for that matter.
        I'd rather be fed to animals, than traded for one.
        John Brown did nothing wrong.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by Az
          I am sorry, I was thinking that people are beings with emotions, thoughts, and feelings, not bags of mauled rotting flash.

          mea culpa. I sure as hell wouldn't want my dead body to be retrieved for the release of a bunch of *******s. And probably neither would you. Or them, for that matter.
          maybe.

          it is much more a case of relief for the living relatives than the dead soldiers.

          last time i checked, people like to bury their relatives, instead of just leaving their mauled rotting flesh somewhere. if you remember it's one of the first tech's in civ.

          it would be great if you could sign a card, similar to organ donors - "if i die, i am willing to donate my body in the interest of state security". Until people carry such cards, it is our responsability to do our best to get them.

          I don't like this deal, but Samir Kuntar is small threat.

          The deal for Shalit will be a tons worse. It will be 1 living person, per 300-900 living terrorists that will immediatelly go back to their wrong doings.

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          • #65
            Kuntar is a small threat, but so many Lebanese that will hear about him and want to become just as him are not
            "I realise I hold the key to freedom,
            I cannot let my life be ruled by threads" The Web Frogs
            Middle East!

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            • #66
              Originally posted by Heresson
              Kuntar is a small threat, but so many Lebanese that will hear about him and want to become just as him are not
              They heard about him when he was in prison, and the only group carrying out raids into Israel is Hezbollah, and they run a pretty tight ship.
              If you don't like reality, change it! me
              "Oh no! I am bested!" Drake
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              • #67
                Originally posted by Sirotnikov
                The deal for Shalit will be a tons worse. It will be 1 living person, per 300-900 living terrorists that will immediatelly go back to their wrong doings.
                It definitely will be now!
                Is it me, or is MOBIUS a horrible person?

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                • #68
                  So, Mobi, I don't get your game.

                  Aren't you all for releasing Palestinian prisoners?

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Sirotnikov




                    Golda once said that peace is a function of people on the other side loving their children more than they hate their enemies.

                    I'm glad that we love our children more
                    Even though you are right in this case, didn't you guys kill a four year old to get to that old bastard in a wheelchair (forgot his name) a few years ago ?
                    "Ceterum censeo Ben esse expellendum."

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                    • #70
                      didn't you guys kill a four year old to get to that old bastard in a wheelchair (forgot his name) a few years ago ?


                      IIRC there were about 10 collateral dead in that case. The distinction is, again, that they were collaterals and that we do try to minimize similar damage. The other side goes for civilians directly. The 4 year old wasn't killed during a battle, but during a direct attempt to kill civilians.
                      "Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart he dreams himself your master" - Commissioner Pravin Lal.

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                      • #71
                        A day after being released from prison and returned to Lebanon, terrorist tells Hizbullah's al Manar network, 'To tell you the truth, I envy our enemies. The way they care for a body and will go all the way to return it.' He once again denies killing Israeli toddler Einat Haran


                        Lebanese terrorist Samir Kuntar made a rare statement Thursday, saying that he envies Israel.


                        "To tell you the truth, we envy our enemies. The way they care for a body and will go to the end of the world in order to get it back, and how they care for the hostage and will go all the way to return him," Kuntar said in an interview with Hizbullah's al-Manar television network, a day after being released from jail and returned to Lebanon as part of a prisoner swap deal with Israel.

                        [...]

                        He also said that during his years in prison he had read "the books of the enemy about the '67 and '73 wars", and had felt that the Arab person had no meaning in these wars. He said he felt disregard for human beings' value in Arab countries, adding that this was manifested in Egypt's attitude toward its MIA's.



                        Having retrieved its men from Israeli prisons, Hezbollah vowed to turn its attention to gaining Shebaa Farms, a disputed border zone that is under Israel's control, for Lebanon.

                        The United Nations said Shebaa Farms should be Syrian, and Israel has indicated willingness to discuss ceding the territory once there is agreement over its sovereignty.

                        But Kuntar said the war on Israel would not end there.

                        "Believe me, anyone who thinks freeing the Shebaa Farms or Lebanese lands will end this conflict is delusional," he said. "We will not leave them alone and they will not leave us alone."

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by Eli
                          didn't you guys kill a four year old to get to that old bastard in a wheelchair (forgot his name) a few years ago ?


                          IIRC there were about 10 collateral dead in that case. The distinction is, again, that they were collaterals
                          Cause who could ever guess that dropping a 1000lb bomb on a family home might kill lots of people? And NO, the pathetic trope that a man shouldn't have been in his home is a crock of ****. At least have the guts to admit that killing him was so important that killing his family became irrelevant.


                          The 4 year old wasn't killed during a battle, but during a direct attempt to kill civilians.
                          Actually, it was a kidnapping attempt that went wrong.
                          If you don't like reality, change it! me
                          "Oh no! I am bested!" Drake
                          "it is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong" Voltaire
                          "Patriotism is a pernecious, psychopathic form of idiocy" George Bernard Shaw

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by Sirotnikov
                            A day after being released from prison and returned to Lebanon, terrorist tells Hizbullah's al Manar network, 'To tell you the truth, I envy our enemies. The way they care for a body and will go all the way to return it.' He once again denies killing Israeli toddler Einat Haran






                            Ah, selective quoting and bolding at its finest.
                            So were exactly is Kuntar in the Hezbollah hierarchy? Janitor, what?
                            If you don't like reality, change it! me
                            "Oh no! I am bested!" Drake
                            "it is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong" Voltaire
                            "Patriotism is a pernecious, psychopathic form of idiocy" George Bernard Shaw

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by GePap
                              Cause who could ever guess that dropping a 1000lb bomb on a family home might kill lots of people? And NO, the pathetic trope that a man shouldn't have been in his home is a crock of ****. At least have the guts to admit that killing him was so important that killing his family became irrelevant.
                              we have intel. on whether people are home or not.
                              sometimes it's wrong.


                              Actually, it was a kidnapping attempt that went wrong.
                              actually you're spewing hezbullah revisionist history.
                              there was no policy of kidnapping attempts in the 1970s, surely not by the PFLP.

                              there was a policy of cross border raids, with the clear target of killing as many as possible.

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by GePap
                                Ah, selective quoting and bolding at its finest.
                                So were exactly is Kuntar in the Hezbollah hierarchy? Janitor, what?
                                what the f*** is your point?
                                That kuntar doesn't represnt hezbullah 100%? Where did I claim that?

                                My point was to show you Kuntar's point of view. It also represents that of many similar minded people.


                                quit with the dumb nit picking already.

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