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  • #61
    Originally posted by Ben Kenobi
    Unaware? No. Do I believe they are prefereable to getting married? No.
    Then it appears you asked an invalid question.

    Such as?
    GE 1:3-5 On the first day, God created light, then separated light and darkness.
    GE 1:14-19 The sun (which separates night and day) wasn't created until the fourth day.

    GE 1:11-12, 26-27 Trees were created before man was created.
    GE 2:4-9 Man was created before trees were created.

    GE 1:20-21, 26-27 Birds were created before man was created.
    GE 2:7, 19 Man was created before birds were created.

    GE 1:24-27 Animals were created before man was created.
    GE 2:7, 19 Man was created before animals were created.

    GE 1:26-27 Man and woman were created at the same time.
    GE 2:7, 21-22 Man was created first, woman sometime later.

    GE 1:28 God encourages reproduction.
    LE 12:1-8 God requires purification rites following childbirth which, in effect, makes childbirth a sin. (Note: The period for purification following the birth of a daughter is twice that for a son.)

    GE 1:31 God was pleased with his creation.
    GE 6:5-6 God was not pleased with his creation.
    (Note: That God should be displeased is inconsistent with the concept of omniscience.)

    GE 2:4, 4:26, 12:8, 22:14-16, 26:25 God was already known as "the Lord" (Jahveh or Jehovah) much earlier than the time of Moses.
    EX 6:2-3 God was first known as "the Lord" (Jahveh or Jehovah) at the time of the Egyptian Bondage, during the life of Moses.

    GE 2:17 Adam was to die the very day that he ate the forbidden fruit.
    GE 5:5 Adam lived 930 years.

    GE 2:15-17, 3:4-6 It is wrong to want to be able to tell good from evil.
    HE 5:13-14 It is immature to be unable to tell good from evil.

    GE 4:4-5 God prefers Abel's offering and has no regard for Cain's.
    2CH 19:7, AC 10:34, RO 2:11 God shows no partiality. He treats all alike.

    GE 4:9 God asks Cain where his brother Able is.
    PR 15:3, JE 16:17, 23:24-25, HE 4:13 God is everywhere. He sees everything. Nothing is hidden from his view.

    GE 4:15, DT 32:19-27, IS 34:8 God is a vengeful god.
    EX 15:3, IS 42:13, HE 12:29 God is a warrior. God is a consuming fire.
    EX 20:5, 34:14, DT 4:24, 5:9, 6:15, 29:20, 32:21 God is a jealous god.
    LE 26:7-8, NU 31:17-18, DT 20:16-17, JS 10:40, JG 14:19, EZ 9:5-7 The Spirit of God is (sometimes) murder and killing.
    NU 25:3-4, DT 6:15, 9:7-8, 29:20, 32:21, PS 7:11, 78:49, JE 4:8, 17:4, 32:30-31, ZP 2:2 God is angry. His anger is sometimes fierce.
    2SA 22:7-8 (KJV) "I called to the Lord; ... he heard my voice; ... The earth trembled and quaked, ... because he was angry. Smoke came from his nostrils. Consuming fire came from his mouth, burning coals blazed out of it."
    EZ 6:12, NA 1:2, 6 God is jealous and furious. He reserves wrath for, and takes revenge on, his enemies. "... who can abide in the fierceness of his anger? His fury is poured out like fire, and rocks are thrown down by him."
    2CO 13:11, 14, 1JN 4:8, 16 God is love.
    GA 5:22-23 The fruit of the Spirit of God is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control.

    GE 4:16 Cain went away (or out) from the presence of the Lord.
    JE 23:23-24 A man cannot hide from God. God fills heaven and earth.

    GE 6:4 There were Nephilim (giants) before the Flood.
    GE 7:21 All creatures other than Noah and his clan were annihilated by the Flood.
    NU 13:33 There were Nephilim after the Flood.

    GE 6:6. EX 32:14, NU 14:20, 1SA 15:35, 2SA 24:16 God does change his mind.
    NU 23:19-20, 1SA 15:29, JA 1:17 God does not change his mind.

    GE 6:19-22, 7:8-9, 7:14-16 Two of each kind are to be taken, and are taken, aboard Noah's Ark.
    GE 7:2-5 Seven pairs of some kinds are to be taken (and are taken) aboard the Ark.

    GE 7:1 Noah was righteous.
    JB 1:1,8, JB 2:3 Job was righteous.
    LK 1:6 Zechariah and Elizabeth were righteous.
    JA 5:16 Some men are righteous, (which makes their prayers effective).
    1JN 3:6-9 Christians become righteous (or else they are not really Christians).
    RO 3:10, 3:23, 1JN 1:8-10 No one was or is righteous.

    GE 7:7 Noah and his clan enter the Ark.
    GE 7:13 They enter the Ark (again?).

    GE 11:7-9 God sows discord.
    PR 6:16-19 God hates anyone who sows discord.

    GE 11:9 At Babel, the Lord confused the language of the whole world.
    1CO 14:33 Paul says that God is not the author of confusion.

    GE 11:12 Arpachshad [Arphaxad] was the father of Shelah.
    LK 3:35-36 Cainan was the father of Shelah. Arpachshad was the grandfather of Shelah.

    GE 11:26 Terah was 70 years old when his son Abram was born.
    GE 11:32 Terah was 205 years old when he died (making Abram 135 at the time).
    GE 12:4, AC 7:4 Abram was 75 when he left Haran. This was after Terah died. Thus, Terah could have been no more than 145 when he died; or Abram was only 75 years old after he had lived 135 years.

    GE 12:7, 17:1, 18:1, 26:2, 32:30, EX 3:16, 6:2-3, 24:9-11, 33:11, NU 12:7-8, 14:14, JB 42:5, AM 7:7-8, 9:1 God is seen.
    EX 33:20, JN 1:18, 1JN 4:12 God is not seen. No one can see God's face and live. No one has ever seen him.

    GE 10:5, 20, 31 There were many languages before the Tower of Babel.
    GE 11:1 There was only one language before the Tower of Babel.

    GE 15:9, EX 20:24, 29:10-42, LE 1:1-7:38, NU 28:1-29:40, God details sacrificial offerings.
    JE 7:21-22 God says he did no such thing.

    GE 16:15, 21:1-3, GA 4:22 Abraham had two sons, Ishmael and Isaac.
    HE 11:17 Abraham had only one son.

    GE 17:1, 35:11, 1CH 29:11-12, LK 1:37 God is omnipotent. Nothing is impossible with (or for) God.
    JG 1:19 Although God was with Judah, together they could not defeat the plainsmen because the latter had iron chariots.

    GE 17:7, 10-11 The covenant of circumcision is to be everlasting.
    GA 6:15 It is of no consequence.

    GE 17:8 God promises Abraham the land of Canaan as an "everlasting possession."
    GE 25:8, AC 7:2-5, HE 11:13 Abraham died with the promise unfulfilled.

    GE 17:15-16, 20:11-12, 22:17 Abraham and his half sister, Sarai, are married and receive God's blessings.
    LE 20:17, DT 27:20-23 Incest is wrong.

    GE 18:20-21 God decides to "go down" to see what is going on.
    PR 15:3, JE 16:17, 23:24-25, HE 4:13 God is everywhere. He sees everything. Nothing is hidden from his view.

    GE 19:30-38 While he is drunk, Lot's two daughters "lie with him," become pregnant, and give birth to his offspring.
    2PE 2:7 Lot was "just" and "righteous."

    GE 22:1-12, DT 8:2 God tempts (tests) Abraham and Moses.
    JG 2:22 God himself says that he does test (tempt).
    1CO 10:13 Paul says that God controls the extent of our temptations.
    JA 1:13 God tests (tempts) no one.

    GE 27:28 "May God give you ... an abundance of grain and new wine."
    DT 7:13 If they follow his commandments, God will bless the fruit of their wine.
    PS 104:15 God gives us wine to gladden the heart.
    JE 13:12 "... every bottle shall be filled with wine."
    JN 2:1-11 According to the author of John, Jesus' first miracle was turning water to wine.
    RO 14:21 It is good to refrain from drinking wine.

    GE 35:10 God says Jacob is to be called Jacob no longer; henceforth his name is Israel.
    GE 46:2 At a later time, God himself uses the name Jacob.

    GE 36:11 The sons of Eliphaz were Teman, Omar, Zepho, Gatam, and Kenaz.
    GE 36:15-16 Teman, Omar, Zepho, Kenaz.
    1CH 1:35-36 Teman, Omar, Zephi, Gatam, Kenaz, Timna, and Amalek.

    GE 49:2-28 The fathers of the twelve tribes of Israel are: Reuben, Simeon, Levi, Judah, Zebulun, Issachar, Dan, Gad, Asher, Naphtali, Joseph, and Benjamin.
    RE 7:4-8 (Leaves out the tribe of Dan, but adds Manasseh.)

    GE 50:13 Jacob was buried in a cave at Machpelah bought from Ephron the Hittite.
    AC 7:15-16 He was buried in the sepulchre at Shechem, bought from the sons of Hamor.

    EX 3:1 Jethro was the father-in-law of Moses.
    NU 10:29, JG 4:11 (KJV) Hobab was the father-in-law of Moses.

    EX 3:20-22, DT 20:13-17 God instructs the Israelites to despoil the Egyptians, to plunder their enemies.
    EX 20:15, 17, LE 19:13 God prohibits stealing, defrauding, or robbing a neighbor.

    EX 4:11 God decides who will be dumb, deaf, blind, etc.
    2CO 13:11, 14, 1JN 4:8, 16 God is a god of love.

    EX 9:3-6 God destroys all the cattle (including horses) belonging to the Egyptians.
    EX 9:9-11 The people and the cattle are afflicted with boils.
    EX 12:12, 29 All the first-born of the cattle of the Egyptians are destroyed.
    EX 14:9 After having all their cattle destroyed, then afflicted with boils, and then their first-born cattle destroyed, the Egyptians pursue Moses on horseback.

    EX 12:13 The Israelites have to mark their houses with blood in order for God to see which houses they occupy and "pass over" them.
    PR 15:3, JE 16:17, 23:24-25, HE 4:13 God is everywhere. He sees everything. Nothing is hidden from God.

    Oh, it is. I suppose then that colour is a fundamental property. Our eyes are neither consistant nor can they perceive the fundamental nature of things.
    Colour is actually pretty scientific. I'm sure you're familiar with the basics of it, from the one year you actually did something useful in your life.

    It's real and it's fact. People's perceptions can be altered by disabilities or deformations in their eye. Doesn't change what is real.

    It's a simple question Asher. What is the thing that is most real to you?
    Right now, it's my ThinkPad. I'm touching it, it's working, and it's bringing me immense entertainment.

    If you're going to ask stupid questions, can you please do us all the favour and PM them to Agathon instead?
    "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
    Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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    • #62
      Originally posted by Ben Kenobi
      Going on what he said here, it seems to be his top priority. I'm sorry Imran, I can't read Oerdin's mind, but from what he's said here it seems clear to me which he values most of all.
      Che is right. This is a thread where you show off your ignorance.

      That statement you linked that Oerdin said... get this... ISN'T CONTROVERSIAL! I mean its actually pretty common.

      And thinking that statement means he mostly values sex... Wow. Let's just say you are reading your own biases in.
      “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
      - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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      • #63
        Colour is actually pretty scientific. I'm sure you're familiar with the basics of it, from the one year you actually did something useful in your life.
        It can tell us many things, like the spectra of stars and all, and about it's composition. But it's not a fundamental property. If it were so, then objects would have different natures to colourblind people.

        Right now, it's my ThinkPad. I'm touching it, it's working, and it's bringing me immense entertainment.
        What are you touching? Your thinkpad is pushing back against you. You perceive it as a solid surface, but that's not really true.
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        • #64
          Originally posted by Ben Kenobi


          It can tell us many things, like the spectra of stars and all, and about it's composition. But it's not a fundamental property. If it were so, then objects would have different natures to colourblind people.

          What are you touching? Your thinkpad is pushing back against you. You perceive it as a solid surface, but that's not really true.
          Vacuous post of the year goes to........
          "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
          Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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          • #65
            Ben's dead spot on. The obsession with all things sexual and angst that comes with it rather than appreciating the things one has as one gets older including a maturing relationship speaks volumes.

            Relationships change as they age certainly doesn't mean one needs to piss and moan and wish instead for the old times, one can and should simply appreciate what they have or work to make it better.
            "Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson

            “In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.” - Jimmy Carter

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            • #66
              Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui


              And thinking that statement means he mostly values sex... Wow. Let's just say you are reading your own biases in.
              No it was pretty clear. Ben had it down cold. Oerdin's opening post was an ode to hedonism.
              "Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson

              “In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.” - Jimmy Carter

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              • #67
                We are familiar with the concept of a "mid life crisis" right? Isn't that wishing for old times?

                And itsn't obsession with all things sexual. Part of it was the excitement of sexual newness, but also less cares and just less worries that does come with youth.
                “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                • #68
                  Let's not go overboard folks.

                  Ben, your lack of experience is highlighted here, the less said is probably best.

                  I'm not gay but I have to believe that long term relationships regardless of gender share many common themes.

                  But ASHER,
                  Originally posted by Asher
                  Second of all, anyone who votes for the Republicans after the 8 years the US just had under the Republican leadership is mentally "touched" and fits precisely in the category of closeted, self-repressed homosexual.
                  Just because I don't like Hillary or Obama doesn't make me fit your description.

                  And yes I wish I was 20 again. (but as stated, it would be better if I retained what I know now. That would make it much more enjoyable)
                  It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
                  RIP Tony Bogey & Baron O

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                  • #69
                    Midlife crisis - It's called a need to grow up.

                    Part of it was the excitement of sexual newness, but also less cares and just less worries that does come with youth. - in other words the recipe for a good hedonist.
                    "Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson

                    “In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.” - Jimmy Carter

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                    • #70
                      Uh oh... you just said rah needed to grow up because he also wishes he was 20 again .

                      There is a reason things like midlife crisis's exist. It is because when people were young they felt like there were less demands and less stress on them. Things settled into a boring routine, especially in suburbia... Hell, many movies have been made about exactly this point (American Beauty being just one).
                      “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                      - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
                        Uh oh... you just said rah needed to grow up because he also wishes he was 20 again .
                        Perhaps Rah should I don't know him. The difference of course is whether one takes action or refuses to take action based upon those desires. The fact that Oerdin seems to denigrate his GF would indicate more than just a passing fancy at 20 ish life style/angst. If Rah were to start boffing a 20 year old secretary I would say the same about Rah.

                        As for midlife crisis, Rah can speak to it better than you or me and probably me moreso than you my young friend.
                        "Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson

                        “In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.” - Jimmy Carter

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by rah
                          Let's not go overboard folks.

                          Ben, your lack of experience is highlighted here, the less said is probably best.

                          I'm not gay but I have to believe that long term relationships regardless of gender share many common themes.

                          But ASHER,
                          I thought this would be the end for me, and I was being banned for going to town on Ben.

                          Whew!

                          Ben strikes a nerve with me. His callous, careless, constant, "Caring Christian" (alliteration!) beliefs that undermine my relationship and life at fundamental levels are perpetually insulting to me. The fact that he does it with a fake smile is all the more infuriating.
                          "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                          Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                          • #73
                            Rah has shown maurity in his restraint.
                            "Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson

                            “In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.” - Jimmy Carter

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                            • #74
                              Maurity
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                              AND TEH GRAAT SINS OF THERE [DOCTRINAL] INOVATIONS BQU3ATH3D SMAL
                              AND!!1!11!!! LOL JUST IN CAES A DISPUTANT CALS U 2 DISPUT3 ABOUT THEYRE CLAMES
                              DO NOT THAN DISPUT3 ON THEM 3XCAPT BY WAY OF AN 3XTARNAL DISPUTA!!!!11!! WTF

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                              • #75
                                Imaurity
                                "Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson

                                “In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.” - Jimmy Carter

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