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If she wants the freedom to do that why not homeschool her kid?
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Originally posted by Ben Kenobi
Just bring back uniforms, problem solved.
If she wants the freedom to do that why not homeschool her kid?
Because freedom is an American birthright.
Of course, a school can have certain rules, e.g. a dress code -- which the school here had and which was NOT violated. Rather, the school had to claim the haircut was "disruptive." Bah, some administrator just didn't like the haircut and thought he was God for a Day.
Bah, some administrator just didn't like the haircut and thought he was God for a Day.
QFT !
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Just like there is a right to education? I don't see that one anywhere in the Bill of Rights.
Of course, a school can have certain rules, e.g. a dress code -- which the school here had and which was NOT violated. Rather, the school had to claim the haircut was "disruptive." Bah, some administrator just didn't like the haircut and thought he was God for a Day.
Yes, Americans have freedom, but they do not have the freedom to infringe upon the freedoms of others. If it is right that schools have dress codes, then the issue isn't freedom at all. What is to stop the school from saying "no mohawks" and revising their dress code.
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Originally posted by Zkribbler
This is a violation of his Mohawk heritage! I stand with my First-Nations brother!
I've seen kids with that haircut.
Would he have been okay if he had a completely shaved head? What a silly rule.
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Originally posted by Donegeal
Lets see... the school gives two warnings to the mother about the issue and she does nothing. Not only does she do nothing, but she obviously was involved with either cutting the hair or getting it cut (six year olds don't go to the barber on their own).
Mohawks violate the school's policy on being properly groomed, school Principal Linda Geyer said. Also, the school district's dress code allows school officials to forbid anything that interferes with the conduct of education.
The school, either public or private, has a right to remove a student if that student has become a distraction to the education of other students.
distraction? distraction? Are you serious? I never took you for the trolling type.
Distraction is when the heating or AC doesn't work or there's jackhammers in the parking lot or cellphones are turned on and ringing in the classroom. Haircuts are not distractions. They are nearly static visual stimuli that will demand maybe a couple seconds of a six year olds attention.
I certainly remember the absurd "distraction" reasoning being used to ban just about anything school administrators didn't personally like but it pains me to see that same tired cynically transparent or (or perhaps mindlessly uncritically repeated) excuse is still used and uncritically accepted today.
Originally posted by Ben Kenobi
If it is right that schools have dress codes, then the issue isn't freedom at all. What is to stop the school from saying "no mohawks" and revising their dress code.
Discipline problems decline drastically when dress codes are instituted.
Arguably, the school could institute such a rule if it had a legitimate reasons. But here, it wasn't part of the rule.
The kid was punished even though he broke no rule.
It isn't about "distractions". It's about teaching kids the lesson that individuality is bad. Conform and obey. Be good little consumers and never question anything.
Libraries are state sanctioned, so they're technically engaged in privateering. - Felch
I thought we're trying to have a serious discussion? It says serious in the thread title!- Al. B. Sure
Just like there is a right to education? I don't see that one anywhere in the Bill of Rights.
Yes, Americans have freedom, but they do not have the freedom to infringe upon the freedoms of others. If it is right that schools have dress codes, then the issue isn't freedom at all. What is to stop the school from saying "no mohawks" and revising their dress code.
One person's haircut DOES NOT infringe upon the freedoms of others.
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Originally posted by Thoth
It isn't about "distractions". It's about teaching kids the lesson that individuality is bad. Conform and obey. Be good little consumers and never question anything.
I do believe you are right.
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I work with children from 2mo - 10 years. The administrator is not off base with the request. It has potential of being disruptive to all the children in that classroom and the individual child's social progess in that school. The greatest potential for disruption is the reaction of his clasmates' parents. The child would be eventually labeled by some of these parents; best case as a little strange, worse case as a threat to their own child.
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Originally posted by Swissy
I work with children from 2mo - 10 years. The administrator is not off base with the request. It has potential of being disruptive to all the children in that classroom and the individual child's social progess in that school. The greatest potential for disruption is the reaction of his clasmates' parents. The child would be eventually labeled by some of these parents; best case as a little strange, worse case as a threat to their own child.
So some parents whose own kiods have"normal" hairstlyes claim this kid is bad because of his haricut? Bull****, that shouldn't ever be a reason to remove the mohawk hairstyle kid from school. If anything, anyone intolerant of the kid should be removed for bullying.
You just wasted six ... no, seven ... seconds of your life reading this sentence.
One person's haircut DOES NOT infringe upon the freedoms of others.
And neither is there a right to education.
Go look it up.
I was waiting for you to say this. The school has the ability to enforce rules that they believe will improve conduct just as the mother has the option to homeschool her children if she so wishes.
If she believes so strongly that the school is being "the man", then she is free to exercise her own rights and teach her child herself.
One parent does not have the right to demand that the school change to conform to her beliefs, and this goes to any matter.
I would think being a true 'youth rights activist' that you would be horrified that the mother is using her child in this manner.
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To put it bluntly, what if it was a kid with leukemia and that child had no hair because of chemotherapy? Are the administrators going to demand an end to the chemotherapy so the kid can havea normal hairstlye?
You just wasted six ... no, seven ... seconds of your life reading this sentence.
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