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  • #31
    I don't know if you're talking to me or Wezil, but I don't necessarily disagree with DeCSS (it's debatably legal even here in the US) but rather with keeping it ripped beyond the duration of the rental contract; that seems illegal.
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    • #32
      Originally posted by Asher


      If it's < 10Mbit/sec, it ain't HD.
      Luckily my downloads are more like 100Mbit/sec

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      • #33
        Originally posted by snoopy369
        I don't know if you're talking to me or Wezil, but I don't necessarily disagree with DeCSS (it's debatably legal even here in the US) but rather with keeping it ripped beyond the duration of the rental contract; that seems illegal.
        The duration of the rental contract is legally as long as I am a member of zip.ca.
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        • #34
          Originally posted by Kuciwalker


          Luckily my downloads are more like 100Mbit/sec
          If this is a joke, it's missing a punchline.

          I'm clearly referring to bitrate. And I know all about your castrated-bandwidth-cap network.
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          • #35
            I would think that if you have more than the number of movies you're permitted to rent at one time on your computer, it would not be legal But who knows in canada, the US is rather stricter than most (or all...)
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            • #36
              Originally posted by Asher


              There are programs out there such that you insert your DVD into your computer, you hit the big, coloured button and it does everything for you.
              You assume I can play a DVD on my computer. CD's only.
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              • #37
                Originally posted by snoopy369
                I would think that if you have more than the number of movies you're permitted to rent at one time on your computer, it would not be legal But who knows in canada, the US is rather stricter than most (or all...)
                If that's true, how come Netflix members can stream unlimited amounts of movies?
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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Wezil


                  You assume I can play a DVD on my computer. CD's only.
                  If cost is no object, buy a $20 DVD-ROM.
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                  • #39
                    Snoopy - AIUI our digital copyright laws are much looser but the current gov would like to change that.
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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Asher


                      If that's true, how come Netflix members can stream unlimited amounts of movies?
                      They can't, for one; they can stream up to the number of hours times the amount they pay for their plan (so a $15 plan = 15 hrs movies), last I checked.



                      They explicitly state that you may not copy the DVD ... I suppose you could argue you're not 'copying' the DVD, but I think the argument would not go very far

                      Edit: Netflix did indeed change their plan to unlimited streaming; however, it undoubtedly is '1 stream per account' and lower quality, and I would presume they are able to do so because they negotiated that cost with the folks in the movie selling business... it's certainly not the same as keeping a movie in ripped format.
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                      • #41
                        The rest of the machine matches the disc drive. You would shudder to see it I'm sure.

                        Yes, I could always upgrade my computer but if an upgraded computer was something I wanted I would have done so already. I am a very low tech person.
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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by snoopy369


                          They can't, for one; they can stream up to the number of hours times the amount they pay for their plan (so a $15 plan = 15 hrs movies), last I checked.



                          They explicitly state that you may not copy the DVD ... I suppose you could argue you're not 'copying' the DVD, but I think the argument would not go very far
                          That doesn't make it illegal. It makes it a technical violation of a service's rules.
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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Asher


                            That doesn't make it illegal. It makes it a technical violation of a service's rules.
                            It makes it a violation of copyright law, i.e. you have no right to the DVD's contents, and the only extent to which you have such a right is that granted by the rental contract (the rules that you agree to when you sign up).
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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Asher
                              If this is a joke, it's missing a punchline.

                              I'm clearly referring to bitrate.


                              Obviously. 100Mbit of bandwidth lets you stream (roughly) 100Mbit video, or at least download high-bitrate video quickly.

                              And I know all about your castrated-bandwidth-cap network.


                              Don't knock a 10GB/day limit

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                              • #45
                                BTW Snoopy:

                                Netflix will begin offering unlimited online movie streaming from a library of over 6000 movies to customers on their $16.99 plan starting Monday. The


                                Netflix will begin offering unlimited online movie streaming from a library of over 6000 movies to customers on their $16.99 plan starting Monday.

                                The move is said to be in response to the expected announcement by Apple CEO Steve Jobs at the Macworld Expo Tuesday that iTunes will offer movie rentals from most major studios. The expected price of the iTunes rented movies is $3.99 each, putting Netflix is a competitive position for high value regular movie watchers.

                                Netflix has previously offered limited movie streaming to its 7 million + customers, but capped the streaming access at 17 hours a month.
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