Is it too early to talk of V.P. choices?

[Rufus T. Firefly]

Originally posted by -Jrabbit
Saw Bob Dole on TV last night and he suggested McCain-Condi Rice.

I've alway thought of Bob as a pretty straightlaced guy, but if he thinks the way to a GOP victory is to put one of Bush's closest advisors on the ticket -- well, I'll have whatever he's smoking, please.

[LordShiva]

Condi

[Kontiki]

We should wait for Ben's prediction, so that we will know who has absolutely zero chance and we can scratch them off the list.

[Timexwatch]

For the GOP, start looking at governors or former cabinet members who are under 65 who are southern/evangelical, and probably not well known enough to overshadow McCain. He needs someone who will motivate the evangelicals and other footsoldiers. McCain doesn't need Huckabee, who is as distrusted by movement conservatives as McCain is, and doesn't need Rudy who doesn't bring much to the table electorally. He also doesn't need a senior-statesman Cheney type. Here are a few possible picks:

Mark Sanford
Tim Pawlenty
Sonny Perdue
Tom Ridge (if he isn't sick of making bales of cash lobbying)

I can't really think of that many people who should be on the list. I'm also betting that he won't select another Senator, a woman or a minority. I can't think of any qualified, nationally or statewide-know woman or minority on the GOP side. Libby Dole is awful and Kay Bailey isn't all that great either. Mel Martinez is probably the top Hispanic GOPer and he's busy trying to keep his Senate seat. Michael Steele might be the highest ranking black GOP'er, but he's too low-ranking also too busy making bales of cash.

Don't get me started on him picking Lieberman or a Democrat. McCain wants this too bad to throw it all away with a crappy Veep pick.

I don't know that much about potential democratic picks, but I'd have to say that Edwards and Richardson aren't on the list. Richardson wasn't ready for prime time at all during his campaign and Edwards is an also-ran.

[DinoDoc]

For the GOP, start looking at governors or former cabinet members who are under 65 who are southern/evangelical, and probably not well known enough to overshadow McCain.

Barbour?

[SlowwHand]

Originally posted by -Jrabbit
Saw Bob Dole on TV last night and he suggested McCain-Condi Rice.

I would vote that in a heartbeat.

[Rufus T. Firefly]

Originally posted by SlowwHand


I would vote that in a heartbeat.

So you'd basically vote to keep the US military in Iraq forever. Interesting.

[SlowwHand]

That's out of your mouth. I'll ask for yet another reference. I won't get it, I rarely do.

[Timexwatch]

Originally posted by DinoDoc

For the GOP, start looking at governors or former cabinet members who are under 65 who are southern/evangelical, and probably not well known enough to overshadow McCain.

Barbour?

I was going to say Barbour, but he's too obvious a choice, and I think that he's probably happy doing the governorship thing for now. That, and the GOP needs to stay away from anything Katrina-related.

[Rufus T. Firefly]

Here ya go, Sloww...

The United States military could stay in Iraq for "maybe a hundred years" and that "would be fine with me," John McCain told two hundred or so people at a town hall meeting in Derry, New Hampshire, on Thursday evening.

McCain, January 3, 2008.

Here's a link: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/0...-_n_79662.html

But don't take David Corn's word for it; here's the video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFknKVjuyNk

McCain's also for liberalizing immigration laws; he's even joined forces with Ted kennedy on that one.

Now, given that immigration and having troops in Iraq are the two things you pop off about most often, why are you so happy with McCain?

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by Timexwatch
I was going to say Barbour, but he's too obvious a choice, and I think that he's probably happy doing the governorship thing for now. That, and the GOP needs to stay away from anything Katrina-related.

You maybe right about him liking the governor thing for now but I don't think him being around for Katrina would be toxic. His record during that time has recieved generally good reviews and he was recently reelected unlike Blanco in LA.

[Ramo]

I don't see Bloomberg going along with McCain. His politics are much closer to Obama's and Clinton's. Hutchison would be a strong choice for him, but that might not help him consolidate the base and she wants to be Guv. People like to talk up Pawlenty, even though he only barely survived '06. Thune's also an oft-cited favorite among conservatives. Not too many fantastic choices, but some reasonably solid ones...

[The diplomat]

McCain-Lieberman vs Clinton-Obama

[SlowwHand]

Originally posted by Rufus T. Firefly
Here ya go, Sloww...



McCain, January 3, 2008.

Here's a link: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/0...-_n_79662.html

But don't take David Corn's word for it; here's the video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFknKVjuyNk

McCain's also for liberalizing immigration laws; he's even joined forces with Ted kennedy on that one.

Now, given that immigration and having troops in Iraq are the two things you pop off about most often, why are you so happy with McCain?

Immigration is not illegal aliens, so you don't understand the concepts.
Having troops in Iraq, I was for, until they got Hussein and the country of Iraq refused to take ownership of their country, so you don't pay attention.

What else do you have to offer?

[Rufus T. Firefly]

Originally posted by SlowwHand
Having troops in Iraq, I was for, until they got Hussein and the country of Iraq refused to take ownership of their country, so you don't pay attention.

What else do you have to offer?

That's not the question. This is the question:

You pop off all the time about how we should have left Iraq as soon as we got Hussein; McCain, by contrast, is okay with us having troops there "for the next hundred years." So why would you vote for McCain?

Oh, and as for illegal immigration:

John McCain's immigration policies have earned him a D grade from Americans for Better Immigration,[85] a group that advocates immigration reduction and enforcement of federal immigration law.

McCain has promoted legislation to legalize and eventually grant citizenship to the estimated 12–20 million illegal aliens in the United States and to create an additional guest worker program with an option for permanent immigration. His prominent role in promoting the Senate's 2006 immigration legislation, including an initial cosponsorhip role with Ted Kennedy, made him a focus of the debate in 2006, and his support for S.1348 did so again in 2007.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_John_McCain#Immigration

Seems hard to believe you're okay with that. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe you're okay with McCain making those 2.2 million illegals in Texas legal, just like that. But if that's not okay by you, why would you vote for McCain?

Simple questions. What's the answer?