Lost: Season Four

[flash9286]

The death date on the tombstone was the date of the Oceanic crash; the party line is that he died when the plane went down, along with almost everyone else outside of the Oceanic Six. So he's either still alive on the island and everyone is pretending he and everyone else on the island died (for reasons that are yet to be explained), or he dies on the island sometime between now and when the Six get off.

Actually from the way Jack told when he was a witness, 6 survived and 2 died on the island or on the journey away from the island. All the others died in the plane crash. So something has to happen to 2 of them that prevents them from covering their deaths up like the rest.

I missed that hint, anything else indicating that Jin had a flashback?

The year dragon, he was doing his old job, told the nurse he had only been married two months.

[Guynemer]

He also had a comparatively large and out of date cell phone, which got smashed by the moped.



As far as the other two "survivors" in the Oceanic Six fairy tale, I thought perhaps it was just another part of the cover-up, ie it would be more believable that a couple people who survived the initial crash would succumb to their injuries and/or exposure.

[Solver]

Interesting how I misinterpreted it. I figured Jin returned to working for Paik in the future and, for some reason, left Sun and married another woman. The Dragon year reference didn't give me anything, apparently I suck with calendars

[flash9286]

As far as the other two "survivors" in the Oceanic Six fairy tale, I thought perhaps it was just another part of the cover-up, ie it would be more believable that a couple people who survived the initial crash would succumb to their injuries and/or exposure.

True, didn't look at it that way.

[rah]

How are they going to jive the survival story with the faked evidence (black box and ALL bodies found)

[Guynemer]

Can't wait to find out, been wondering that myself.

[MarkG]

Originally posted by Guynemer
Ummm, Jin was having a flashBACK, Sun a flashFORWARD. Jin's off-island stuff was taking place back in 2000, the Year of the Dragon.

damn i didnt notice that!

the phone looked kind of strange to me but i didnt thought much about it as the moment

hugo had some pretty gay hair

the confirmation about the owner on the boat and ben's man was ok but we pretty much knew this stuff, they should give up something more about why they want to get ben...

btw, is anyone else bored at these references that the oceanic six would be ultra famous, instantly recognizable, etc? if this happened irl it wouldnt be that big for a long time.

[MarkG]

from thefuselage

Sayid's line, "Glad to meet you...Kevin" and the accompanying cold steel look in his eyes was really meant to be translated by the viewer as "So nice to see you again, Michael, especially since I have long regretted missing the opportunity to extract vengeance on you for killing Ana Lucia and Libby and letting Ben return to the Others. Now that I suddenly and unexpectedly have an opportunity to shove splinters under your fingernails and force you to regret with anguish every molecule of oxygen you inhale, I am finally starting to have a good day."

i wonder if there could be a spin-off with sayid doing spy stuff

[Wiglaf]

MarkG and Solver need to find new brains. To not realize Jin was having a flashback is completely and utterly embarrassing.

I like that the show revealed Michael with the dramatic music and quick cut without recapping who he was -- realize, that you need to have seen the ending of Season 2 to even care about the revelation or understand it. Otherwise you just think the black janitor is really scary to Sayid and Desmond.

[MarkG]

Originally posted by Wiglaf
To not realize Jin was having a flashback is completely and utterly embarrassing.

lately i have found it more entertaining to leave myself at the hands of the creators of the show while watching the episode for the first time. let them tell their story and leave the analyzing afterwards. for example when i saw the tombstone, i knew there was certainly something about the dates but chose to enjoy the scene rather than starting thinking what month it was on the stone and what that meant about whether jin is really alive or not, or if....

perhaps you need to realize that is a tv show not some quiz that you're instantly enforced to answer....

[Japher]

ban Wiglaf!!! you should no better than to insult those with "staff" above their avatar. 'cept for Ming, of course.

I thought it was a good episode.

[Heraclitus]

I hate to say this but Wiglaf is kind of right, I mean it was so apparent.

[Solver]

In retrospect, it was.

[MarkG]

Originally posted by Heraclitus
I mean it was so apparent.

well it wasnt meant to be apparent (otherwise showing us a tale about jin getting a panda for a client 3 years ago would be very stupid), so i watched like that.

[flash9286]

I thought this was very interesting.

When Miles talks to Ben and ask for 3.2 million dollars in one week, it is code.
First, Miles is one of the ‘others’. I believe proof of that is when he asks Ben ‘do you know who I work for’. Second, saying that he wants 3.2 million dollars is his way of telling Ben that our rescue crew knows the bearing to get on the island; 3-2-5 (3.2 and 5 zeroes). Ben then asks Miles why not 3.3 or 3.5 and Miles says no, 3.2 million dollars—reinforcing that they are sure of the correct bearing. Fourth, when Miles says that Ben has one week to get the money, he is saying that more people are coming to the island in one week unless action is taken to prevent it. These are just my ideas, I just thought the conversation between Ben and Miles was so bizarre that it had to have more meaning behind it.

http://lost-theories.com/theories/2008/feb/22/32-million-dollars/

Remember at the end of season 2 Ben tells Micheal to follow a bearing of 325 to get off the island.