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Originally posted by Elok
It's not reasonable, it's what he considers a bulletproof argument, and it's moronic even when you ask it instead of him. The only original part is your use of the term "superstition," which you seem to love. I do not use that word to describe religions of any kind, as the term to me implies pseudoscientific or magical thinking rather than the mysticism found in most religions. I know you don't understand the distinction, but that's your problem.I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
- Justice Brett Kavanaugh
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Originally posted by b etor
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Originally posted by Elok
You might have noticed that many of us have similar opinions about philosophy in general.Last edited by Kidlicious; January 8, 2008, 15:24.I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
- Justice Brett Kavanaugh
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Originally posted by Elok
One of the people quoted specifically said that it's just an image thing.
"The existence/activity of God is not provably false. And don't give me that flying spaghetti monster crap, it's plain to me that by superstition Wezil meant that they were afraid the telephone number would jinx them somehow--not borne out by the article quoted. I know you want to be a condescending superior enlightened rational smegtard, but pick another thread for it."
It's not provably false either that numbers jinx people, as has already been said and ignored. Sorry if you don't want to hear it but it's significant.Last edited by Kidlicious; January 8, 2008, 15:34.I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
- Justice Brett Kavanaugh
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One of them once told me that when it rains when it's sunny that the devil is beating his wife.
Nice Kid"The DPRK is still in a state of war with the U.S. It's called a black out." - Che explaining why orbital nightime pictures of NK show few lights. Seriously.
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Mike Huckabee, the candidate for transfer:
When asked about a Palestinian state, Gov. Huckabee stated that he supports creating a Palestinian state, but believes that it should be formed outside of Israel. He named Egypt and Saudi Arabia as possible alternatives, noting that the Arabs have far more land than the Israelis and that it would only be fair for other Arab nations to give the Palestinians land for a state, rather than carving it out of the tiny Israeli state."Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
-Bokonon
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Originally posted by SlowwHand
You have no understanding of history, Rufus.
Now, back to 666, unless you want to tell me Abe Lincoln had it tattooed on his ass, which I would believe and like to hear more about.
Again, it wasn't blacks to the South, as much as it was jackasses with their snobass attitude.
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Actually, I'm surprised the place isn't a den of satanists...
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Originally posted by Elok
It's not reasonable, it's what he considers a bulletproof argument, and it's moronic even when you ask it instead of him. The only original part is your use of the term "superstition," which you seem to love. I do not use that word to describe religions of any kind, as the term to me implies pseudoscientific or magical thinking rather than the mysticism found in most religions. I know you don't understand the distinction, but that's your problem.
Guess that you once again are answering me .
Please be so kind to explain why the question is moronic (and give a better one that Mobby has done the same).
I don't have particular "love" of certain words - just use those that I find most fitting. As you say, one way of interpretation of the word "superstition" is connected to magical thinking - well, I might be strange, but walking on water and turning water into wine can be considered to fall into that category.
No offense, but using the word "mysticism" isn't actually an improvement. That word just says that according to current society and belief, current belief is considered true and not supersticiousness. Shortly said, "mysticism" is just a rubber stamp wich value can be changed without notice.With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.
Steven Weinberg
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Well, it doesn't even begin to follow logically that if two or more groups make contradictory claims they must both/all be wrong, for starters. That's the general implication of the question.
The English phrase "magical thinking" implies more than just "invoking the supernatural." It describes something pseudoscientific, along the lines of what LOTM mentioned umpteen posts back. You might say superstition is "folk pseudoscience." It essentially posits a form of the supernatural no different in quality from the laws of science, just derived from a different, generally more colorful source than empirical investigation and thus more likely to be false. It's typically a mechanistic process; just as every reaction has an equal and opposite reaction, walking under a ladder will bring misfortune in the near future.
As for mysticism, it actually has a much more firm and set meaning than "superstition": belief in a form of truth which must be attained through direct experience rather than intellectual exercise. Wikipedia's English article on it doesn't seem too bad. It'll probably do a better job of explaining it than I can. I think the url is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mysticism
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Originally posted by Elok
As for mysticism, it actually has a much more firm and set meaning than "superstition": belief in a form of truth which must be attained through direct experience rather than intellectual exercise. Wikipedia's English article on it doesn't seem too bad. It'll probably do a better job of explaining it than I can. I think the url is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mysticism
All you are doing is labeling things with words that have different connotations.
People who believe in superstitions have experiences also. I have two different experiences that I shared with other two different people that I will share with you.
The first experience is when I was camping and I heard people walking around in the snow outside during the night. Another person was with me and heard the same thing. When we woke up we noticed that there were no footprints in the snow. The other person believes that that there were spirits walking around our tent.
The second expierience is when I was driving along with a different person from the first person and I saw a very strange light in the sky. It was so strange that I had to pull over the car and look at it. Other people also pulled over because they had saw it. I talked to them. The person in my car believes it was a UFO.
You think you are better than them don't you?! Your arrogance is beaming.I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
- Justice Brett Kavanaugh
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I need to make a thread to poke fun at the mystics next. I've overlooked them so far."I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
"I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it." - Mark Twain
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Those aren't superstitions per se, just kooky-ass beliefs/opinions. Get with the program, Kid.
Wezil...no. Just quit already.
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Originally posted by Elok
Those aren't superstitions per se, just kooky-ass beliefs/opinions. Get with the program, Kid.
Wezil...no. Just quit already.I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
- Justice Brett Kavanaugh
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