More Religious Nutters

[b etor]

Originally posted by LordShiva

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Elok
It's not reasonable, it's what he considers a bulletproof argument, and it's moronic even when you ask it instead of him. The only original part is your use of the term "superstition," which you seem to love. I do not use that word to describe religions of any kind, as the term to me implies pseudoscientific or magical thinking rather than the mysticism found in most religions. I know you don't understand the distinction, but that's your problem.

My **** doesn't stink like yours. It has an interesting aroma rather.

[LordShiva]

Originally posted by b etor

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Elok


You might have noticed that many of us have similar opinions about philosophy in general.

That doesn't need to be said, because you have described yourself as a mystic, and therefore as someone who doesn't use reason. People who don't use reason should be lumped together; superstition and mysticism.

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Elok
One of the people quoted specifically said that it's just an image thing.

It's not just an image thing. Religious people have a tendency to believe other irrational things. One of them once told me that when it rains when it's sunny that the devil is beating his wife. He was quite serious. That's not in the Bible. It's just what you would call a superstition.

"The existence/activity of God is not provably false. And don't give me that flying spaghetti monster crap, it's plain to me that by superstition Wezil meant that they were afraid the telephone number would jinx them somehow--not borne out by the article quoted. I know you want to be a condescending superior enlightened rational smegtard, but pick another thread for it."

It's not provably false either that numbers jinx people, as has already been said and ignored. Sorry if you don't want to hear it but it's significant.

[Patroklos]

One of them once told me that when it rains when it's sunny that the devil is beating his wife.

Kid being ****ed with by religionists

Nice Kid

[Ramo]

Mike Huckabee, the candidate for transfer:

When asked about a Palestinian state, Gov. Huckabee stated that he supports creating a Palestinian state, but believes that it should be formed outside of Israel. He named Egypt and Saudi Arabia as possible alternatives, noting that the Arabs have far more land than the Israelis and that it would only be fair for other Arab nations to give the Palestinians land for a state, rather than carving it out of the tiny Israeli state.

http://www.prospect.org/csnc/blogs/tapped_archive?month=01&year=2008&base_name=of_hicks_and_homelands

[Geronimo]

Originally posted by SlowwHand
You have no understanding of history, Rufus.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ku_Klux_Klan

Now, back to 666, unless you want to tell me Abe Lincoln had it tattooed on his ass, which I would believe and like to hear more about.

Again, it wasn't blacks to the South, as much as it was jackasses with their snobass attitude.

Why honor Forrest at all? What did he accomplish?

[MOBIUS]

Actually, I'm surprised the place isn't a den of satanists...

[BlackCat]

Originally posted by Elok
It's not reasonable, it's what he considers a bulletproof argument, and it's moronic even when you ask it instead of him. The only original part is your use of the term "superstition," which you seem to love. I do not use that word to describe religions of any kind, as the term to me implies pseudoscientific or magical thinking rather than the mysticism found in most religions. I know you don't understand the distinction, but that's your problem.

Guess that you once again are answering me .

Please be so kind to explain why the question is moronic (and give a better one that Mobby has done the same).

I don't have particular "love" of certain words - just use those that I find most fitting. As you say, one way of interpretation of the word "superstition" is connected to magical thinking - well, I might be strange, but walking on water and turning water into wine can be considered to fall into that category.

No offense, but using the word "mysticism" isn't actually an improvement. That word just says that according to current society and belief, current belief is considered true and not supersticiousness. Shortly said, "mysticism" is just a rubber stamp wich value can be changed without notice.

[Elok]

Well, it doesn't even begin to follow logically that if two or more groups make contradictory claims they must both/all be wrong, for starters. That's the general implication of the question.

The English phrase "magical thinking" implies more than just "invoking the supernatural." It describes something pseudoscientific, along the lines of what LOTM mentioned umpteen posts back. You might say superstition is "folk pseudoscience." It essentially posits a form of the supernatural no different in quality from the laws of science, just derived from a different, generally more colorful source than empirical investigation and thus more likely to be false. It's typically a mechanistic process; just as every reaction has an equal and opposite reaction, walking under a ladder will bring misfortune in the near future.

As for mysticism, it actually has a much more firm and set meaning than "superstition": belief in a form of truth which must be attained through direct experience rather than intellectual exercise. Wikipedia's English article on it doesn't seem too bad. It'll probably do a better job of explaining it than I can. I think the url is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mysticism

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Elok
As for mysticism, it actually has a much more firm and set meaning than "superstition": belief in a form of truth which must be attained through direct experience rather than intellectual exercise. Wikipedia's English article on it doesn't seem too bad. It'll probably do a better job of explaining it than I can. I think the url is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mysticism

Elok,

All you are doing is labeling things with words that have different connotations.

People who believe in superstitions have experiences also. I have two different experiences that I shared with other two different people that I will share with you.

The first experience is when I was camping and I heard people walking around in the snow outside during the night. Another person was with me and heard the same thing. When we woke up we noticed that there were no footprints in the snow. The other person believes that that there were spirits walking around our tent.

The second expierience is when I was driving along with a different person from the first person and I saw a very strange light in the sky. It was so strange that I had to pull over the car and look at it. Other people also pulled over because they had saw it. I talked to them. The person in my car believes it was a UFO.

You think you are better than them don't you?! Your arrogance is beaming.

[Wezil]

I need to make a thread to poke fun at the mystics next. I've overlooked them so far.

[Elok]

Those aren't superstitions per se, just kooky-ass beliefs/opinions. Get with the program, Kid.

Wezil...no. Just quit already.

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Elok
Those aren't superstitions per se, just kooky-ass beliefs/opinions. Get with the program, Kid.

Wezil...no. Just quit already.

Ok, let's try again. So what makes your beliefs better than those of "kooks?"