Student Tasering at Kerry Q&A

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Apocalypse
Kid, he didn't really ask questions, it was mostly rants. And it was three instead of one like people were supposed to ask. This was a former presidential candidate and many people wanted to be there to learn some things and ask their own questions. It is unfair for the audience if the bro is allowed to take up their time like that. He went way outside the parameters of the format. Security had every right to remove him. It was not some political meeting, it was an academic function. People should be able to learn.

No one disagrees with that. You are saying it like it's reason for the police to punish him though.

Furthermore, just focusing on injury to the police when tasered ignored what I said earlier. It is largely about preventing injury to him too. It is very easy to injure someone when multiple people have their hands on the subject. People can pull different ways and an arm can easily get dislocated, if not broken. A shock from a taser is definitely not wore than a dislocated shoulder.

The police have no right to taser someone just to prevent injury to them. I've posted that, with evidence, and no one has disputed it.

[SlowwHand]

Who cares? He's tasered, article or not.

[Aeson]

Originally posted by Kidicious

Learn to read. It's helpful. Just because I respond to MosesPressley's use of the term "obnoxious" in one context (solely dealing with his questioning of Kerry) does not mean your use of the term in another context refutes what I said.

It means your point is irrellevent.

The point is that he was being defiant. He intended to be defiant from the start. He started off defiant, and the police got pissed off so they tasered him. The fact that he was obnoxious to the police is part of that. Right?

Was his verbal outburst (after the questions to Kerry) part of his defiance? Yes.

Was it part of the reason he got tasered? No. There's nothing to suggest it was, and evidence enough to suggest it wasn't.

It's clear it was the physical altercation that lead to the tasering. Before the physical altercation he was not tasered. He continued his verbal defiance after the tasering, yet there was no further tasering once he had stopped physically resisting.

[Apocalypse]

Originally posted by Kidicious

No one disagrees with that. You are saying it like it's reason for the police to punish him though.

What? I never mentioned punishment at all. Why do you think this has anything to do with punishment? Maybe this is where the disconnect is coming from.

Originally posted by Kidicious
The police have no right to taser someone just to prevent injury to them. I've posted that, with evidence, and no one has disputed it.

I honestly missed this evidence.

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Aeson
Was it part of the reason he got tasered? No. There's nothing to suggest it was, and evidence enough to suggest it wasn't.

What evidence?

It's clear it was the physical altercation that lead to the tasering.

Newsflash! You aren't seeing things clearly. Stop saying things are clear.

Before the physical altercation he was not tasered. He continued his verbal defiance after the tasering, yet there was no further tasering once he had stopped physically resisting.

Bull****. He was tasered 3 times.

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Apocalypse

What? I never mentioned punishment at all. Why do you think this has anything to do with punishment? Maybe this is where the disconnect is coming from.

I don't know any other reason why you would say all that, because we are discussing whether or not he should have been tasered.

I honestly missed this evidence.

Another police officer, I believe the chief, said that the only reason to taser someone is in the situation where the police are at risk of injury.

[Asher]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
Huh.. this is interesting:

http://www.starbanner.com/article/20070918/NEWS/70918007/1053/BREAKING_NEWS

Police have released the incident report detailing the Tasering of a University of Florida student during a campus forum with Sen. John Kerry Monday, and the officer who actually Tasered Andrew Meyer wrote in the report that Meyer later told police, "You didn't do anything wrong."

In the 12-page report, which gives accounts of the incident from the perspective of eight different officers who were present Monday afternoon, Officer Nicole Mallo writes that Meyer would only resist officers when cameras were present.

"As (Meyer) was escorted down stairs (at the University Auditorium) with no cameras in sight, he remained quiet, but once the cameras made their way down stairs he started screaming and yelling again," Mallo wrote.

Mallo was one of two officers who actually rode in the vehicle as Meyer was escorted to the Alachua County jail, and she said said he told them during the ride: "I am not mad at you guys, you didn't do anything wrong, you were just trying to do your job," according to Mallo's account.

Mallo also wrote in her report that he asked, at one point, if cameras would be present at the jail.

[snip]

The whole time I watched the video, I kept thinking "this guy is a douche. He's in it for the attention."

He took a bad situation and made it worse for the attention, and you lot are paying attention to it. Ignore this guy, get on with your lives, let him be fade into obscurity only to be remembered in trivia later as a whiney *****.

[Kidlicious]

The cop is as nuts as he is, if not worse. Why do you listen to her?

[Asher]

Originally posted by Kidicious
The cop is as nuts as he is, if not worse. Why do you listen to her?

Because what she says is 100% believable given the guy's actions on camera.

If you ask me, more people need to be tasered in this world.

[Aeson]

Originally posted by Kidicious
What evidence?

The videos, obviously.

Newsflash! You aren't seeing things clearly. Stop saying things are clear.

Ok. I will stop saying things are clear.

Obviously you are distressed by meaningless things.

Bull****. He was tasered 3 times.

He was tasered at one point. How many times is obviously irrellevent to the argument I made. He was cuffed, and in the video you posted continued his verbal outbursts. Yet was not tasered again. This is obviously because he had stopped physically resisting.

Obviously you're losing this one.

[Aeson]

Originally posted by Asher
The whole time I watched the video, I kept thinking "this guy is a douche. He's in it for the attention."

He took a bad situation and made it worse for the attention, and you lot are paying attention to it. Ignore this guy, get on with your lives, let him be fade into obscurity only to be remembered in trivia later as a whiney *****.

Hi Pot!

- Kettle

[Asher]

Originally posted by Aeson
Hi Pot!

- Kettle

Shut up or I will tazer you too! You're in this for the attention, all of this posting of yours.

[Aeson]

I'm glad you went that way, and not with the "douche".

(I am here for the hot chicks who dig guys who get into meaningless discussions about irrellevent topics on game message boards.)

[Elok]

Originally posted by Asher

Because what she says is 100% believable given the guy's actions on camera.

If you ask me, more people need to be tasered in this world.

While I agree with your general sentiment, I must say that tasers are for pansies. In this situation, the Rodney King protocol was warranted.

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Aeson
The videos, obviously.

Answer doesn't make sense. Dismissed.

He was tasered at one point. How many times is obviously irrellevent to the argument I made. He was cuffed, and in the video you posted continued his verbal outbursts. Yet was not tasered again. This is obviously because he had stopped physically resisting.

It's obvious that someone who had their panties in a bunch got their control fix, and no longer felt like tasering people who were resisting control.