Student Tasering at Kerry Q&A

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Aeson


Awww, can't think of anything topical to say in response? Senility sucks don't it?

I said enough. Everything you said is irrelevant. I have nothing else to say to you.

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Wiglaf
You and Agathon are very similar.

You and Pakroklos are similar. Point?

[Aeson]

Originally posted by Kidicious
I said enough. Everything you said is irrelevant.

Irrelevant to your misinterpretation perhaps. In any case, my last response to you on this thread's topic is still on the table. If you ever decide to get the balls to start up our conversation again and attempt a response, feel free.

I have nothing else to say to you.

Prove it.

[Kidlicious]

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[Wiglaf]

Originally posted by Kidicious


You and Pakroklos are similar. Point?

WTF?

[Kidlicious]

Pakroklos gave me his credit card after hacking me.

[Kidlicious]

Amnesty International

Tasers are widely promoted by US police agencies as being a useful force tool, safer than many other weapons or techniques used to restrain dangerous, aggressive and focused individuals. In practice, however, they are commonly used to subdue individuals who do not pose a serious and immediate threat to the lives or safety of others. In many reported instances police actions using tasers appear to have breached international standards on the use of force as well as the prohibition against torture or other cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment.

Amnesty International considers that electro-shock weapons are inherently open to abuse as they can inflict severe pain at the push of a button without leaving substantial marks, and can further be used to inflict repeated shocks. While the capacity for abuse exists in whichever mode tasers are deployed, Amnesty International believes that tasers in "touch" stun gun mode are particularly open to abuse, as they are designed for "pain compliance" and tend to be used against individuals who are already in custody or under police control, often with multiple shocks.

Amnesty International is further concerned that, despite being widely deployed, there has been no rigorous, independent and impartial study into the use and effects of tasers. Medical opinion has continued to raise concern about potential health risks from tasers, particularly in the case of people suffering from heart disease, or under the influence of certain drugs. Amnesty International's concerns are heightened by a growing number of deaths of individuals struck by police tasers. The organization believes that the taser cannot be ruled out as a possible contributory factor in some deaths. Concerns about the risks associated with tasers increase as they become more widely deployed.

Many police agencies claim that tasers have the potential to save lives or avoid serious injury in cases where police officers might otherwise resort to firearms or other forms of deadly force. It is self-evident that tasers are less-lethal or injurious than firearms. Amnesty acknowledges that there may be situations where tasers can effectively be used as "stand-off", defensive weapons as an alternative to firearms in order to save lives. This appears to be the aim of the limited introduction of tasers to UK police who operate under strict rules. However, it appears that in practice tasers are rarely used as an alternative to firearms in the USA and most departments place them at a relatively low level on the "force scale". Amnesty International further notes that measures such as stricter controls and training on the use of force and firearms are likely to be more effective overall in reducing unnecessary deaths or injuries.

It's electro-shock and toture. This guy is just a drop in the bucket.

[Asher]

Well, there you have it. If Amnesty International claims a weapon has the potential for abuse, it is reasonable to assume every time it is used, it is abuse.

Logic 101...

[Wiglaf]

Taser International
Amnesty International

[Apocalypse]

I give up. You haven't had one of these shock you, I have. It's not that bad.

[The Mad Monk]

Originally posted by Guynemer
Campus cops are a joke; they have no idea how to handle these sorts of situations (or most others, for that matter).

Depends on the campus.

When I went to Rutgers-Newark in the early nineties, the campus police were in fact state troopers.

[Wiglaf]

State troopers omfg!

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Apocalypse
I give up. You haven't had one of these shock you, I have. It's not that bad.

I call you a liar sir.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1J9_Xcs0Tho

"I'm 340 pounds and I can handle myself, but that hurts (being tasered). I've been shot and I've been stabbed and that hurts."

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Asher
Well, there you have it. If Amnesty International claims a weapon has the potential for abuse, it is reasonable to assume every time it is used, it is abuse.

Logic 101...

STFU you troll

[Donegeal]

It is only one deployment.

Every time the trigger is pulled on the taser, it goes for 5 seconds. I timed it watching the video again. Some times you can hear the clicking of the taser, sometimes you can't (because of all the activity), but it only went for the 5 seconds.

The use of the taser is based on how the policy is written by the department that lets it's officers use one. In this case, it does seem that the policy is written as to protect the officers only, but do not think for a second that that policy is universial. It is not written that way in my department.