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  • #61
    You mean back to when Hussein signed a Cease Fire, then immediately broke it by firing on aircraft patrolling the No Fly Zone, while simultaneously gassing Kurds?

    What's your version, slick?
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    • #62
      It would seem that there was involvement, Patroklos. I see little reason to doubt it.
      Involvement in Iraqi politics? No doubt. Dubbing lil' Saddam our golden boy specifically before at least the seventies, no way in hell.

      Again, do you guys not realize he was 26 is 1963? Just think about it for a second.
      "The DPRK is still in a state of war with the U.S. It's called a black out." - Che explaining why orbital nightime pictures of NK show few lights. Seriously.

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      • #63
        The main problem for the USA has been our penchant for feeling we need to choose "the lesser of 2 evils", at a particular point in time.
        Rather, we should just wash our hands of it.
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        He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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        • #64
          Originally posted by Patroklos
          Involvement in Iraqi politics? No doubt. Dubbing lil' Saddam our golden boy specifically before at least the seventies, no way in hell.

          Again, do you guys not realize he was 26 is 1963? Just think about it for a second.
          I don't think he was necessarily "our man." I think the evidence seems to indicate that the CIA realized pretty early that he was useful, and used him.
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          • #65
            Originally posted by Patroklos
            Involvement in Iraqi politics? No doubt. Dubbing lil' Saddam our golden boy specifically before at least the seventies, no way in hell.

            Again, do you guys not realize he was 26 is 1963? Just think about it for a second.
            I think the CIA saw a person who would do anything. I'm sure they didn't see him ruling, but he was still our man.
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            • #66
              Originally posted by SlowwHand
              The main problem for the USA has been our penchant for feeling we need to choose "the lesser of 2 evils", at a particular point in time.
              Rather, we should just wash our hands of it.
              Tell MtG that. He fancies the Cold War.
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              • #67
                Iran is ****ed up. Iraq is ****ed up. Syria is ****ed up.
                So why get involved at any time with any of them?
                Call that Cold War if you want. It just makes sense.

                Here. Shoot your self in one foot or the other, or you just ignore it. I choose ignore.
                Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
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                He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by SlowwHand
                  You mean back to when Hussein signed a Cease Fire, then immediately broke it by firing on aircraft patrolling the No Fly Zone, while simultaneously gassing Kurds?

                  What's your version, slick?
                  Is this for me?
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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by SlowwHand
                    Iran is ****ed up. Iraq is ****ed up. Syria is ****ed up.
                    So why get involved at any time with any of them?
                    Call that Cold War if you want. It just makes sense.

                    Here. Shoot your self in one foot or the other, or you just ignore it. I choose ignore.
                    The CIA believed that Saddam was the least friendly to the Soviets. It had nothing to do with him being less evil and certainly nothing to do with Iraq.
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                    • #70
                      Are you the one citing 1991? If so, then yes.
                      USA did what the U.N. wanted to and numbnuts Hussein immediately broke the treaty.
                      Clinton spent 8 years ignoring it while he diddled the help.
                      Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
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                      He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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                      • #71
                        I think the CIA saw a person who would do anything. I'm sure they didn't see him ruling, but he was still our man.
                        I don't consider coincidental benefits to amount to "putting him in power."
                        "The DPRK is still in a state of war with the U.S. It's called a black out." - Che explaining why orbital nightime pictures of NK show few lights. Seriously.

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by SlowwHand
                          Are you the one citing 1991? If so, then yes.
                          USA did what the U.N. wanted to and numbnuts Hussein immediately broke the treaty.
                          Clinton spent 8 years ignoring it while he diddled the help.
                          Yea well, Bush Senior (AKA The CIA President) didn't change the regime.


                          And he didn't diddle the help either. So there.
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                          • #73
                            Don't get me started on Bush, Sr. That dumb bastard should have told the U.N. to stick the idea of a Cease Fire squarely up their ass. U.N. is SO much help.
                            The one time Clinton got involved at all, Somalia with U.N. help, was certainly a cluster****.
                            We didn't need to be in Iraq a second time. We should have taken out Hussein the first time. Bush ****ed up and listened to the U.N.
                            Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
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                            He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by Patroklos
                              I don't consider coincidental benefits to amount to "putting him in power."
                              Still say the CIA didn't play a major part? I don't think he could have done it without them. And what was this about other players?
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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by SlowwHand
                                Bush ****ed up and listened to the CIA
                                fixed
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