Aircraft carriers for everyone!

[Serb]

Originally posted by lord of the mark


educate yourself about colloquial english, then. I did not mean "a few days before the estonian dude got there, the brit got there" I meant " the estonian dude got there a few days before the brit dude got there" I phrased it as I did for style.

Thanks for a lesson.
But it wasn't an Estonian dude, it was RUSSIAN DUDES.

I think it was quite comprehensible.

It wasn't.

[Serb]

Originally posted by lord of the mark
IIUC Lenin is more widely respected now than he was under the EEVIL Eltsin, right?

I'm not sure about that.

[Starchild]

I love it when the Russians get agitated. They're so cute when angry.

[lord of the mark]

Originally posted by Serb


I'm not sure about that.

so y'all agree that the november revolution was a mistake, and the USSR a bad thing?

Oh wait. The eevileltsin let the nationalities go. Lenin gave the nationalities nominal sovereignty within the USSR. Both were bad alternatives to pre-1917 Russia, which was actually the motherland of the nationalities, not their prisonhouse, right?

[Serb]

Originally posted by lord of the mark


There were certainly many nationalities there. Lenin called pre-1917 Russia "a prison house of the nationalities"

Hell, I can say the same about USA. The only difference is that ethnic diversity of USA comes from the fact that United States of America is a home sweet home for emigrants from all parts of the world, while ethnic diversity of Russia comes from the fact that Russia is HUGE and Russians didn't adoppted the policy of extermination of a native population.

[Serb]

Originally posted by lord of the mark


so y'all agree that the november revolution was a mistake, and the USSR a bad thing?

Of course not.
USSR was a good guy and YOU are the bad guys.

Oh wait. The eevileltsin let the nationalities go. Lenin gave the nationalities nominal sovereignty within the USSR. Both were bad alternatives to pre-1917 Russia, which was actually the motherland of the nationalities, not their prisonhouse, right?

Yeah, something like that (but USSR still was a better alternative).

[Serb]

Originally posted by Starchild
I love it when the Russians get agitated. They're so cute when angry.

I'm not angry, you drama queen.

[Patroklos]

So the West discovers endless tracts of resource rich inhabitable terrain, and Russia finds a worthless chunk of ice about 400 years after the fact?


Siberia Mk II. Russia

[lord of the mark]

Originally posted by Serb


Hell, I can say the same about USA. The only difference is that ethnic diversity of USA comes from the fact that United States of America is a home sweet home for emigrants from all parts of the world, while ethnic diversity of Russia comes from the fact that Russia is HUGE and Russians didn't adoppted the policy of extermination of a native population.

Nor did the US, they died of disease, as did no small number of the natives of Siberia, Kamchataka, etc.

[Lonestar]

Originally posted by Serb

Peter the Great was about 80 years earlier than American Independence. And 80 years is more than a 1/3 of your total history as an independent state. you think it's "not that long"?

The USN traces it's Maritime history through the RN, Hell our first commissioned ship was the Alfred named after teh English King. Much longer than the Russkis.

Oleg was indeed a Rurick, but he was a RUSSIAN Prince, not Swedish or Martian or whatever.
So, the Russian power projection at the beggining of the 10th century was pretty good (if not unprecedented).

Gotcha, so Oleg and his men, who were also Vikings(because what's the likelyhood that a buncha dirt farmers knew how to assemble longboats is plenty slim)built a bunch of boats and alledgedly sailed across the Black Sea. So, the Vikings did that, not the Russians. Hell, that's how the Varangian Guard was created. Not "the Slavic Guard". And the Varangian Guard was created because of a later expidtion. The one that you cite isn't even listed in Wikipedia, either under Oleg's entry or the comtemporary East Roman Emperor.

No maritime tradition, my ass. Who do you think discovered Antarctica?

Baltic German, as has been commented. Also, no one else hangs their maritime expedition on Antartica, why should you?

[Serb]

Originally posted by Patroklos
So the West discovers endless tracts of resource rich inhabitable terrain,

Russia is the largest country on Earth and Russians explored, populated and exploit the largest and the most mineral rich terrain on this planet. That makes us the greatest land explorers ever.

And one day we will return Alaska back, which is the Russian soil.

and Russia finds a worthless chunk of ice about 400 years after the fact?

What 400 years after the fact?

Siberia Mk II. Russia

Siberia

[Lonestar]

Originally posted by Serb


Hell, I can say the same about USA. The only difference is that ethnic diversity of USA comes from the fact that United States of America is a home sweet home for emigrants from all parts of the world, while ethnic diversity of Russia comes from the fact that Russia is HUGE and Russians didn't adoppted the policy of extermination of a native population.

Yeah, you just conquerored your populations in the Name of diversity.

[Patroklos]

Russians explored, populated and exploit the largest and the most mineral rich terrain on this planet.

There is almost no portion of your Far/Central East terrirotry that the Mongols did not know about or indeed ride all over long before you guys were even called Russians.

[Lonestar]

Originally posted by Serb


Hell, I can say the same about USA. The only difference is that ethnic diversity of USA comes from the fact that United States of America is a home sweet home for emigrants from all parts of the world, while ethnic diversity of Russia comes from the fact that Russia is HUGE and Russians didn't adoppted the policy of extermination of a native population.

Yeah, you just conquerored your populations in the Name of diversity.

Which path of genocide was this that we did?

[lord of the mark]

Originally posted by Serb

Russians didn't adoppted the policy of extermination of a native population.

Well at least at one point it was the policy wrt the Jews to kill one third, exile one third, and convert one third. So are you saying the Jews were NOT native to the parts of Poland-Lithuania that Russia annexed?

Where do you consider them to have been natives of, Israel/Palestine?

Very good, can your govt please reassert that fact loudly to the world, and insist on a just settlement of the ME crisis that recognizes that the Jews of Europe were native to Israel?