Venezuelian Aggressor Only Changes 10% Of The Constitution!

[Arrian]

Yes they are. You don't see it because you aren't a Socialist.

Ah, yes. The neverending war againts the capitalist oppressors. How could I forget?

By every sense of the word the economy of Venezuela was in a depression in 1998. The people in Venezuela aren't all doing well yet, not by a long shot, and they still have very dangerous enemies.

When will the crisis end? When Hugo is 90 and still clinging to power?

-Arrian

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Arrian
Ah, yes. The neverending war againts the capitalist oppressors. How could I forget?

Venezuela is a place that you look at and have to wonder why the hell people can't see that that's true.

When will the crisis end? When Hugo is 90 and still clinging to power?

-Arrian

It will end when it ends.

[Arrian]

Originally posted by Kidicious

The US started the Cold War.

I don't think either side gets sole credit for starting it. The USSR had a little something to do with it. But the fact remains it was a serious crisis. Even if the USA started it, that doesn't mean it wasn't a crisis.

This goes back to the point I made about creating crises to stay in power, if you're allowed to stay in power if there is a crisis.

If that is the reasoning, then leaders will simply ensure there is a crisis (or talk up a non-crisis as if it is one).

-Arrian

[MarkG]

were there different presidents during vietnam?

[Kidlicious]

Cold War, WoT (as if there really was one), and Vietnam obvioulsy were not serious enough crisis to warrant extending term limits. Anyone suggesting that during those times would have just been laughed at.

[Arrian]

Originally posted by MarkG
were there different presidents during vietnam?

JFK (though our involvement was still at the "advisor" level at that point, IIRC) ->LBJ->Nixon.

-Arrian

[lord of the mark]

Originally posted by MarkG
were there different presidents during vietnam?

Is the pope Catholic?


LBJ and Richard Nixon. The changes in US approach to the war, in US politics vis a vis the war, when the presidency changed hands midstream, were among the biggest historical things that happened in the US in 1968, 1969, 1970.

Well other than supporting fascism in Greece, I suppose.

[Arrian]

Originally posted by Kidicious
Cold War, WoT (as if there really was one), and Vietnam obvioulsy were not serious enough crisis to warrant extending term limits. Anyone suggesting that during those times would have just been laughed at.

So the Cold War, Vietnam and WoT fail to meet your standards, but Venezuela's current circumstances do?



Enough said.

-Arrian

[Imran Siddiqui]

Originally posted by Kidicious
Cold War, WoT (as if there really was one), and Vietnam obvioulsy were not serious enough crisis to warrant extending term limits. Anyone suggesting that during those times would have just been laughed at.

Which is why Chavez is being laughed at for saying Venezuela is in crisis as is any idiot who claims the same.

[lord of the mark]

Originally posted by Arrian


JFK->LBJ->Nixon.

-Arrian

depends when you date the beginning of the war. Tonkin gulf res, the Marines landing in Da Nang, were under LBJ.

Under JFK we only had "advisers" there. And spec forces. And CIA guys running around Laos. Thats not being at war, of course.

Surely no one expects that after the withdrawl from Iraq we wont still have advisors, spec forces, and the CIA there?

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui


Which is why Chavez is being laughed at for saying Venezuela is in crisis as is any idiot who claims the same.

Who cares if you laugh. You aren't a Venezuelan.

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Arrian


JFK (though our involvement was still at the "advisor" level at that point, IIRC) ->LBJ->Nixon.

-Arrian

With the exception of JFK they were very unpopular presidents. Why question whether or not they should have extended term limits.

[Arrian]

Originally posted by lord of the mark


depends when you date the beginning of the war. Tonkin gulf res, the Marines landing in Da Nang, were under LBJ.

Under JFK we only had "advisers" there. And spec forces. And CIA guys running around Laos. Thats not being at war, of course.

Surely no one expects that after the withdrawl from Iraq we wont still have advisors, spec forces, and the CIA there?

I DanSed you. Yeah, we were still at the "advisor" stage during JFK's Presidency.

-Arrian

[lord of the mark]

Originally posted by Kidicious


Who cares if you laugh. You aren't a Venezuelan.

Yeah, I doubt Chavez's opponents IN Venezuala are laughing.

[MarkG]

Originally posted by lord of the mark

Is the pope Catholic?

LBJ and Richard Nixon.

I am afraid we're not taught the US Presidential History 101 in Greece...
(and I was not interested enough to google)

Well other than supporting fascism in Greece, I suppose.

dont make me find Clinton's apology for that